Car vandals "too costly to prosecute"

#1
Two car vandals in Norwich were cautioned following ten incidents of damaging cars. Police stated it would be pointless to prosecute as the culprits were unemployed immigrants with no monetary support. Two quotes from the Police
"This caution, whilst not a conviction, is added to their police record and can be cited in court should they re-offend
I bet they`re shaking in their boots.
"The victims, if they wish to do so, can pursue compensation through the civil courts."
Can anyone tell me what exactly the Police do these days if they cannot even pursue low level crime like this. :evil:
 
#2
That's fcuking sh!t!!!!

If they can't afford to pay the fine or have no fixed abode they could be jailed (though knowing the judiciary they'll probably get about a week)

I can't believe they got cautioned for 10 offences.

Norwich police should be ashamed of themselves, though i suspect the decision was made by a CPS lawyer as they have the final say in who goes to court in all but the most simple cases (eg public order or minor offences if the suspect admits it)
 
#3
This is one more step closer to people not bothering with calling the politzei full stop. Why waste a phone call when Mr Baseball-Bat can deliver instant justice. Bring it on!
 
#4
slick said:
Two car vandals in Norwich were cautioned following ten incidents of damaging cars. Police stated it would be pointless to prosecute as the culprits were unemployed immigrants with no monetary support. Two quotes from the Police
"This caution, whilst not a conviction, is added to their police record and can be cited in court should they re-offend
I bet they`re shaking in their boots.
"The victims, if they wish to do so, can pursue compensation through the civil courts."
Can anyone tell me what exactly the Police do these days if they cannot even pursue low level crime like this. :evil:[/quote

When these kind of things happen it really upsets you .
When i had my car hot wired and stolen that's all i got told by the police was that they were people who were unemployed , with alcohol and drug related problems and the books and personal items they took they would not be able to understand anyway . the thing is what these people fail to understand you have to pay extra money for car insurance because you have lost your no claims , then you have to put up for weeks of not having another car and you have to rely on another people to take you to various places of work , shopping etc then all the months you have spent doing course work you have to re do and they violate your personal space.


They should bring in tougher sentences and stop letting these despicable people pull the wool over there eyes
 
#5
slick said:
Two car vandals in Norwich were cautioned following ten incidents of damaging cars. Police stated it would be pointless to prosecute as the culprits were unemployed immigrants with no monetary support. Two quotes from the Police
"This caution, whilst not a conviction, is added to their police record and can be cited in court should they re-offend
I bet they`re shaking in their boots.
"The victims, if they wish to do so, can pursue compensation through the civil courts."
Can anyone tell me what exactly the Police do these days if they cannot even pursue low level crime like this. :evil:
So why are the scum still in the country and not getting out of an albert at 10,000 feet with no chute over their homeland???
 
#6
I live in Norfolk and this is not an isolated case too many people get let off because it is the Purse Strings controlling things and not the justice system.

Although we did have a good redress when Tony Martin shot those pikeys a few years back, I feel his big mistake was not killing both of them, all he had to do was take them out and dump them in a dyke on one of ther remoter fens and no one would have been the wiser.
 
#7
Good mate of mine had his car vandalised in november by some gyppos who had moved into his building: CCTV clearly showed that it was them trashing his new BMW in the 'secure' underground garage.

He called the police only to be told that the footage wasn't clear enough to prove that it was the gyppos.

Next day 10 of his lads from one of his warehouses turn up and batter fcuk out the gyppos. They have ejected them from the building and have been told that if they ever return to the area then a contract will be placed on them.

Why did things have to escalate in serious criminality? Because the local plod refused to take action.
 
#8
I had my car broken into about 4 and a bit years ago by a druggie.

The cops couldn't be bothered to come and collect dna from my car (it was covered in this pr1ck's blood) as they were 'too busy'. On my way to the bodyshop, I passed two mobile police units doing car tax checks. They point blankly refused to assist me.

Anyways, roll forward a couple of weeks and I got a call from a copper. 'the_matelot, we've found the guy who broke into your car (over £500 worth of damage was done to it) but he's a druggie and a young lad (he was older than me at the time!) and has no money'. Well fcuking prosecute him them I said. But they couldn't be bothered to do that...

After that little incident, I've lost all respect for the police. Fcuk them. They need to get their bloody priorites sorted.
 
#9
Am I alone in thinking that any criminal found in possession of drugs, or any crime committed to pay for a habit should automatically attract a 10 year prison sentence (with no remission, and no release until the scumbag has passed 5 years worth of random drug tests)?
 
#10
Dread said:
Am I alone in thinking that any criminal found in possession of drugs, or any crime committed to pay for a habit should automatically attract a 10 year prison sentence (with no remission, and no release until the scumbag has passed 5 years worth of random drug tests)?
I agree totaly mate. the fact that they're druggie scum shouldn't be an excuse. the taking of a controlled drug (and therefore it's possession) is an offence, not an excuse.

It's a shame that senior police officers and the courts can't see it.
 
#11
the_matelot said:
Anyways, roll forward a couple of weeks and I got a call from a copper. 'the_matelot, we've found the guy who broke into your car (over £500 worth of damage was done to it) but he's a druggie and a young lad (he was older than me at the time!) and has no money'. Well fcuking prosecute him them I said. But they couldn't be bothered to do that...

After that little incident, I've lost all respect for the police. Fcuk them. They need to get their bloody priorites sorted.
sorry to hear about that mate, i'm not making excuses for the officers but the decision as to wether or not to prosecute was probably made by a CPS (Criminal Protection Service) lawyer who doesn't have to speak to you to explain his or her decision. I think that the public should have the right to know the name and email address of the CPS lawyer making these decisions and contact them to ask for the rationale behind these decisions (or lack of bottle)

As for loss of respect for the police, it's not just you mate, the majority of the decent members of the public are. we're being made fools of my the government, senior managers and the courts, see my above post on my thoughts on druggies and senior management who dictate he priorities to the police on the ground.
 
#12
i'm not making excuses for the officers but the decision as to wether or not to prosecute was probably made by a CPS (Criminal Protection Service) lawyer
Indeed, this is often the case, but I`m just wondering how tight a case the CPS need these days...the two were caught on camera, owned up to it and another eight offences as well :evil:
 
#14
Pling said:
I live in Norfolk and this is not an isolated case too many people get let off because it is the Purse Strings controlling things and not the justice system.

Although we did have a good redress when Tony Martin shot those pikeys a few years back, I feel his big mistake was not killing both of them, all he had to do was take them out and dump them in a dyke on one of ther remoter fens and no one would have been the wiser.
I live in Naaarwich and there are some areas of the city which suffer from quite bad social deprevation. I live near (but not in), one such area. The area these two men were caught on CCTV vandalising cars is heading out towards another area. If they weren't unemployed immigrants they'd be white trash, or school kids (one of the poorest schools in Norfolk is in that area).
If they can't afford a fine then they should start by cleaning the toilets in the police station and washing all the cars :evil: Nothing to stop the police educating the public in the consequences of their actions and how to act as proper citizens... oh, wait a minute, there is...
 
#15
crabby said:
Pling said:
I live in Norfolk and this is not an isolated case too many people get let off because it is the Purse Strings controlling things and not the justice system.
Although we did have a good redress when Tony Martin shot those pikeys a few years back, I feel his big mistake was not killing both of them, all he had to do was take them out and dump them in a dyke on one of ther remoter fens and no one would have been the wiser.
I live in Naaarwich and there are some areas of the city which suffer from quite bad social deprevation. I live near (but not in), one such area. The area these two men were caught on CCTV vandalising cars is heading out towards another area. If they weren't unemployed immigrants they'd be white trash, or school kids (one of the poorest schools in Norfolk is in that area).
If they can't afford a fine then they should start by cleaning the toilets in the police station and washing all the cars :evil: Nothing to stop the police educating the public in the consequences of their actions and how to act as proper citizens... oh, wait a minute, there is...
Would one support the good ole USA system of chain gangs?
So much rubbish to be cleared, verges trimmed, chewing gum to be removed ... and council employees are so expensive and hard to recruit.
Gets my vote, anyway, and always has. Hard to look cool when chained to a long line of scrotes who are also clearing up their mates' sh*t ... :lol:
 
#16
I have a friend living in Wisbech who tells me that the town is full of drunken immigrants. They work and drink and work and drink and when their in the mood they'll dabble in a little criminality.
 
#17
Can anyone tell me what exactly the Police do these days if they cannot even pursue low level crime like this.

Without sounding like Wolfie Smith the anwser is really simple, to protect the rich and their interests and thats the way it has always has been.

If they did in the Lord Mayors car they would have got time. We all know it. But if you are working class, you are at the mercy of scumbags until you retaliate and then you get sent down.

If you get glassed in pub by some scumbag and you got his arrseted he would do 2-4 years? no more than that. Get your house burgled and all your possesions sold for crack? 2 years maximum.

Rob a post office for 600 quid and you are getting 8-10 years. Burgle some rich cnuts house and you are doing time guaranteed, the police are not there to protect YOU! or me, or anyone else who works for a living.
 
#18
The police in Cumbria are useless as well, I had two young thugs terrorising my little boy so I went to have a quiet word with the parents, 12.30 on a saturday afternoon, the father came out still pi$$ed from the night before and launched himself at me with fists flying. I put the scrote in a controlled restraint hold and stopped him from hitting me, yet I got arrested and taken to court for assault, where's the fcuking justice in that!! :x
 
#19
crabby said:
I live in Naaarwich and there are some areas of the city which suffer from quite bad social deprevation.
Being poor or "social deprivation" is no excuse plenty of people are poor yet still mange to keep the right side of the law and be decent people as well. More likely cause is the jails bursting at the seams a tricky path to walk yes they deserve jail but were do you put them what sort of crime must not be rewarded with a bit of bird to make up for it? If it's immigrants caught then automatic deportation with person non grata on the passport. And I'll bet the soft tawts who allowed the softening of policing/justice etc are the very Nimby's who would be mortified if it it was in their patch. Were did I hear tough on crime and the causes of crime?....the very people in government who have now let it get to this state
 
#20
Well, if Plod can't afford/be bothered to prosecute low-level scum, they have no right to whine when the rest of us decide to play by Belfast Rules.

A Black and Decker to the kneecaps is a much more effective deterrent to crime than HM Prisons!

Funny how money is never a problem when it comes to the important things...like guarding some bint who's sole contribution to society is spreading her legs for our future King.

Nice to know Plod has his priorities right.
 

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