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I just wish I had the money o buy a new car.
Are we sure of the veracity of these statistics?Or is it the ZanuLabour spin machine spooling up yet again to try to fool us into thinking that another of their 'initiatives' is working better than in fact it is?I find it difficult to accept that,in a recession when many are nervously looking over their shoulders and worrying about their futures,more people are going out and buying new cars.Thoughts anyone please....
The problem is that we have no way of knowing how many of the 35,000 people would have bought a new car anyway.
Yes, we are in a recession, however, a lot of people still need a car and there comes a point where maintenance costs on an old car become probative. Buying a good second hand car has become difficult because fewer people with a serviceable car are upgrading to a new one.
Given the amount of car dealerships that are struggleing at the moment... I really doubt these figures.
Â£2,000 for a new car doen't seem that much...
What actually happens to the car at the other end? Do we have convicts strip down the car nut by nut, seperateing out all the bits to recycle and the bits to dispose of? That is what should be happening.
I wonder what the breakdown in the figures is between cars that are actually manufactured in the UK thereby helping to keep manufacturing jobs going? I am just wondering how much the Exchequer could be spending subsidising imports?
And yes I am aware that even the imports create jobs in the shippers and dealers of the car industry.
Also what effect will this have on the 2nd hand car market?
As was mentioned on Sky the other day when these "figures" came out. They reckon 35,000 possible enquiries, not actual purchases or registrations. More spin from a cornered government. This has not equated to 35,000 sales or anything like it.
Hmph, it was only last year I stuck my 10 year old Lotus* in for part ex, couild have done with Â£2k
*May not have been a Lotus
You think thats a pain.
I bought a house at great expense, 3 weeks after completion that cnut Brown suspended Stamp Duty.
I shelled out thousands and a few weeks later I wouldn't have had too
A funny quirk of this car scrappage schem is Mrs Jagman's 2002 Suzuki Grand Vitara (yeh I know, it horrible) is worth less to trade in than a 1995 Escort...
That isn't what car dealers were saying on channel 4 when this was broadcast there.
I'm probably missing something obvious, but are people who run about in a ten year old car really in the market for a new car? Is Joe Bloggs likely to trade in his Ford Grandad for a new Hyundai?
And for the bit of extra CO puffed into the air by keeping an old banger on the road, surely that's nothing compared to all the emissions that have gone into a new car's manufacture, so it can't be sound environmentally to keep pushing us to consume, consume, consume. Which I thought was supposedly important these days to the politicians - to be green? The fact is the car companies over-produced and they over-produced cars that are not always an improvement on their older discontinued models. Vauxhall, for example. Vectra or Insignia? Tough I know, until you sit in an Insignia.
Even if dealers have sold 35000 cars, bet that still hasn't cleared anything like a fraction of the backlog of vehicles sitting in all the parks around Southampton, Ramsgate and any dock over the channel you can think of.
Just out of interest,i sell cars for a living and am at work as we speak,so far since the launch of the initiative we have taken orders for about half a dozen vehicles on the scrap scheme.Incidentally we were offering a Â£1000 scrap allowance for 18 months prior to the government scheme,they are only putting a Â£1000 in!
Sorry about the double-up!
What are you doing with the vehicles you take in?
The reason I ask is that the price of scrap has plummeted
Are you having to pay Scrappies Â£100 to take away your trade ins?
If you have taken half a dozen orders on the scrap scheme how many have you taken not on the scrap scheme?
I.E. people who would buy a new car anyway?
The manufacturer designates an approved scrap merchant who breaks the car and issues a scrap certificate.Other than the scrap orders there are very few people buying new cars,in my case mostly retired people whom i've supplied cars to for a number of years.The used market has been very bouyant for the last 5 months and used values have ralleyed accordingly
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