Car Sales Walts

#1
Recently, my wife and I were searching for a Nissan x trail to purchase. We found a veritable bargain from a chap. The email he sent to us is here:

Hi there,
The car is still for sale. It's in excellent condition, the bodywork is immaculate,no scratches, dents or hidden defects, also the interior is in excellent non-smoking condition, never been involved in any accidents. HPI clear, full service history,* MOT and tax till 06.13.
I am from* Hambrook , Bristol, but I was deployed last week in Dhekalia, Cyprus and I think I'll stay here for a while that's why I'm selling it so cheap. I want to find a good home for it, not to forget it in the garage, so this car could be yours.
Being in the Military, I don't have access to a phone for personal business, so we'll talk through e-mails.I will try to reply as soon as I can.

I will use Paypal to sell this car safely since I'm not able to make the sale in person, so I'll propose you a fair deal. We'll use protection from Paypal for both of us at the same time. Let me know if you are ready to buy this car and I will give you more info.
Cheers,
Chris


Sgt. Christian Warre62 Cyprus Support
Squadron Royal Engineers
christianws44@hotmail.com


Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:25:44 +0000
To: christianws44@hotmail.com
From: support-uk@sitemail.vivastreet.com

Is this something the WK are interested in? Clearly this is a fraud, but does it classify as walting as well?
 

BuggerAll

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#2
IIRC correctly you can make a PAYPAL escrow (I think thats what its called) payment so that the seller can't get hold of it until you confirm that you've got the goods in good order.

That said I think I'd be suspicious too. Maybe you should report it to the police rather than the WK. Afterall he may target more vulnerable people than you.


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#4
Wants to find a 'good home' for it? Scam. Fuck it off. Any cunt selling a car couldn't care fucking less where it ends up as long as the money is paid.
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#7
Shifty, report it to your local Trading Standards office. They'll no doubt be aware of similar scams and may be able to do something about it.
 
#8
There was another e mail from this guy, which after us stating that we were also military and interested in arrangements etc. Here it is:

From: martinth333@hotmail.com
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Message from someone interested in your advert
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:05:30 +0000


Hi again xxxxxxxx,
Before leaving I had prearranged shipping and payment with PayPal (the most secure way to pay and get paid) so my presence isn't necessary. The car is at our Headquarters from Grantham, Lincolnshire. The Logistic Department will deliver the car to your home. The price includes all the shipping costs and insurance, so you won't have to pay any extra charges. Since I work with the Army the delivery process is not an issue, I'll have the car shipped at your home address in maximum 2 days.
Here is what I suggest: we will use PayPal services, you'll make the payment in a PayPal managed account trust fund (they'll hold the money until you'll receive the car ), I will send the car over( the car will be delivered with the owner's manual, service records, and of course the bill of sale authorized and signed by me),I will offer a 5 days period from the day you'll receive the car , you can inspect it, take it to a mechanic to check it out, drive it and then if you decided to keep it, you'll confirm to PayPal the sale and they will send the payment to me. If, by any reason, you will not be satisfied with it (I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked.Please note, that the return of my car will be made, only after you will get your money back. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.
The payment is refundable, and is just a security measure, to make sure that the buyer is serious, and that I am not going to ship the car, and lose time and money. Your payment is 100% covered, because I have open a Trust Account with PayPal and if something goes wrong, you will get a full refund from my account. If you are interested to go ahead with the deal, please reply with your full name, phone # and shipping address so I can ask PayPal to open a case! After that, they will contact you to explain all the details regarding the transaction..
I'm looking forward to hear from you.
Martin


Sgt. Martin Thomson
62 Cyprus Support
Squadron Royal Engineers
martinth333@hotmail.com

Couldn't find this email originally, had to trawl the sent items.

Anyway, all this was in November. Wasn't really sure what there was to get out of this, but thought you all might be interested. We sent another message, asking to call my mil number, or to provide the number for someone in his unit to verify it all. Suffice to say we didn't hear back. Thought there might be some fun to be had with his e mail if nothing else.

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seaweed

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#9
Rather than playing games, isn't this a police matter?
 
#15
Presumably he would get money from PayPal someway?

I sent that e mail address a message saying I was interested in the x trail again, and he sent back the same e mails practically as from November. Try it. I bet you get one or two e mails almost exactly the same as the ones I have posted.

I guess it is just some scrote trying to make a buck using the army identity to provide credibility and a reason for everything to be over e mail.

Not necessarily walting, but a massive toss pot.

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#16
Being in the Military, I don't have access to a phone for personal business, so we'll talk through e-mails.I will try to reply as soon as I can.

Smells like a SCAM to me mate. Dont do it
 
#17
You just know it's a scam when 'he' says "but I was deployed last week in Dhekalia, Cyprus and I think I'll stay here for a while".

Like it's a choice. Anyone with half a brain would know only the RAF get that option
 
#18
Call me thick, but assuming it's a scam, where does our Sgt Martin profit?

He profits because he gets the money and you don't get the car.

Because it does not exist.

As the scamwarning sites show, the people running this scam have loads of "cars" up for sale, all with the same story.
 

BuggerAll

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#19
Call me thick, but assuming it's a scam, where does our Sgt Martin profit?
The OP pays him by PayPal and he fails to deliver the car... Have I been wah'd?
 
#20
I have never had much interaction with the Police. But I imagine that if they had to deal with every internet scam out there, they would be pretty busy.
You appear to forget ( if you were already aware) that the military police monitor E-Bay and such sites for the possible illegal sale of military items, anything from stolen medals to current issue uniforms.
Where's there's a likelyhood of a 'dodgy' sale incorporating military addresses, you can bet your ass they've noticed.
 

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