Car bomb has exploded outside a British Army barracks?

#1
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...Belfast---Police/Article/201004215599530?f=vg

Police say a car bomb has exploded outside a British Army barracks in Northern Ireland. The blast was behind Palace Barracks in Holywood, Belfast, at 12.24am and is described as "ongoing".

Reporting from the scene, Sky's Ireland correspondent Vicky Hawthorne said: "Police are not confirming this but there are unconfirmed reports of some injuries on the ground.

"The area is cordoned off - there's quite a lot of police activity.

"There is a housing estate nearby and some people are being moved out of their homes."

The blast was less than half an hour after law and order powers were officially transferred from London to Belfast.

Dissident Republicans are suspected to be behind the blast
 
#3
Christ, just when it was thought that it'd all quietened down again...

Funny how quick these bastards are to hide behind the law when it suits them, yet they'll happily do this kind of crap with impunity.

If it was PIRA, i'd at least have some respect for them - but this lot... not a chance, they're just out for the kicks.

Seems like nobodies been injured based off reports so far thankfully.
 
#4
The Beeb says
'The blast seems to have been timed to coincide with the precise moment that policing and justice powers devolved from Westminster to Stormont.'

Well with the Shinners running the law now can we expect a quick
Result ?

john
 
#5
Squiggers said:
Christ, ............

If it was PIRA, i'd at least have some respect for them - but this lot... not a chance, they're just out for the kicks.

.....so far thankfully.
Care to explain why you have some respect?

Same people, same background, same objectives, same sick muderous MO, same blood on their hands!

PIRA could have stopped all the dissidents in their tracks if they wished. It suits their purposes to have dissident activity bubbling along quietly as a reminder to the UK Government of what could happen if they don't get their way. PIRA know who the dissidents are, publicly condemn them yet they allow them access to the weapons and technology. When it all goes t!ts up again, the dissidents will be welcomed back into the Republican family with open arms
 

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#7
Herrumph said:
PIRA could have stopped all the dissidents in their tracks if they wished. It suits their purposes to have dissident activity bubbling along quietly as a reminder to the UK Government of what could happen if they don't get their way. PIRA know who the dissidents are, publicly condemn them yet they allow them access to the weapons and technology. When it all goes t!ts up again, the dissidents will be welcomed back into the Republican family with open arms
Exactly. What we need is something like the Sunni Awakening in Fallujah. PIRA quietly kill all the dissident bad guys, thus earning the respect of the Prots, the Irish Govt and HMG as people committed to the political process with whom we can do business and who are capable of delivering their side of any deal. Unfortunately, PIRA are, as usual, hedging their bets.
 
#8
PIRA are to the Dissidents as Provisional Sinn Fein are to PIRA.
 

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#9
Squiggers said:
Christ, just when it was thought that it'd all quietened down again...
I suppose you will be voting Labour too. Please try not to believe all of Gordon's lies.
 
#10
The older I get, the more I shake at this lot and others like them.

"We'll blow up some stuff...and we'll win"

If it wasn't for the misery and suffering these ar$seholes cause, it'd be laughable.

(Heavily plagiarised from Eddie Izzard...but you get the idea).
 
#14
cpunk said:
Herrumph said:
PIRA could have stopped all the dissidents in their tracks if they wished. It suits their purposes to have dissident activity bubbling along quietly as a reminder to the UK Government of what could happen if they don't get their way. PIRA know who the dissidents are, publicly condemn them yet they allow them access to the weapons and technology. When it all goes t!ts up again, the dissidents will be welcomed back into the Republican family with open arms
Exactly. What we need is something like the Sunni Awakening in Fallujah. PIRA quietly kill all the dissident bad guys, thus earning the respect of the Prots, the Irish Govt and HMG as people committed to the political process with whom we can do business and who are capable of delivering their side of any deal. Unfortunately, PIRA are, as usual, hedging their bets.
That would be an efficient means of solving the problem... unfortunately I think your giving the PIRA far too much credit for having any sort of strategic plan.
 
#15
BuggerAll said:
Squiggers said:
Christ, just when it was thought that it'd all quietened down again...
I suppose you will be voting Labour too. Please try not to believe all of Gordon's lies.
Good god no. I was more referring to the fact that we hadn't had any incident (at least, reported in the papers or by the beeb) in several months since the barracks attacks to my knowledge anyway.

Herrumph said:
Squiggers said:
Christ, ............

If it was PIRA, i'd at least have some respect for them - but this lot... not a chance, they're just out for the kicks.

.....so far thankfully.
Care to explain why you have some respect?

Same people, same background, same objectives, same sick muderous MO, same blood on their hands!

PIRA could have stopped all the dissidents in their tracks if they wished. It suits their purposes to have dissident activity bubbling along quietly as a reminder to the UK Government of what could happen if they don't get their way. PIRA know who the dissidents are, publicly condemn them yet they allow them access to the weapons and technology. When it all goes t!ts up again, the dissidents will be welcomed back into the Republican family with open arms
Compare PIRA to RIRA/CIRA - the difference in how they operate is staggering. I can point to the fact that PIRA forewarned of attacks to prevent unnecessary bloodshed. RIRA/CIRA never have, as proved by the Omagh bombing and all incidents that they've claimed they've done since. To me, that makes a key difference between the groups.

Another difference is that members of PIRA wanted (and likely still do) a united Ireland. This lot on the other hand.. they're doing it for the bloodshed. Note how these groups sprung up when PIRA "put down arms"? Thats pretty much why they did, as they want to continue the fighting.

Not to say that I agree with PIRA's tactics, or what they did - I just have some respect for them as a result of what they were fighting for, although better more peaceful methods would have been infinitely preferable.

PIRA unfortunately won't kill off the dissidents. Its detrimental to their aims in the long term for any form of dissident activity to be taking place. Whats another dead Brit/Unionist to them?
 
#16
Squiggers said:
BuggerAll said:
Squiggers said:
Christ, just when it was thought that it'd all quietened down again...
I suppose you will be voting Labour too. Please try not to believe all of Gordon's lies.
Good god no. I was more referring to the fact that we hadn't had any incident (at least, reported in the papers or by the beeb) in several months since the barracks attacks to my knowledge anyway.

Herrumph said:
Squiggers said:
Christ, ............

If it was PIRA, i'd at least have some respect for them - but this lot... not a chance, they're just out for the kicks.

.....so far thankfully.
Care to explain why you have some respect?

Same people, same background, same objectives, same sick muderous MO, same blood on their hands!

PIRA could have stopped all the dissidents in their tracks if they wished. It suits their purposes to have dissident activity bubbling along quietly as a reminder to the UK Government of what could happen if they don't get their way. PIRA know who the dissidents are, publicly condemn them yet they allow them access to the weapons and technology. When it all goes t!ts up again, the dissidents will be welcomed back into the Republican family with open arms
Compare PIRA to RIRA/CIRA - the difference in how they operate is staggering. I can point to the fact that PIRA forewarned of attacks to prevent unnecessary bloodshed.

Not always they didn't.

RIRA/CIRA never have, as proved by the Omagh bombing and all incidents that they've claimed they've done since.

They have, and do.

Another difference is that members of PIRA wanted (and likely still do) a united Ireland. This lot on the other hand.. they're doing it for the bloodshed. Note how these groups sprung up when PIRA "put down arms"? Thats pretty much why they did, as they want to continue the fighting.

The vast majority of them are ex PIRA (and I use the term ex with some scepticism).



Not to say that I agree with PIRA's tactics, or what they did - I just have some respect for them as a result of what they were fighting for, although better more peaceful methods would have been infinitely preferable.

What do you think they were fighting for? Taking your logic to its conclusion, do you have respect for the Taliban?

PIRA unfortunately won't kill off the dissidents. Its detrimental to their aims in the long term for any form of dissident activity to be taking place. Whats another dead Brit/Unionist to them?
Given the contradictory nonsense of most of you post it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Tube.
 
#17
foggy_balla said:
Compare PIRA to RIRA/CIRA - the difference in how they operate is staggering. I can point to the fact that PIRA forewarned of attacks to prevent unnecessary bloodshed.

Not always they didn't.
Note - I didn't say always.

RIRA/CIRA never have, as proved by the Omagh bombing and all incidents that they've claimed they've done since.

They have, and do.
Funny, as I can't recall a warning for either Omagh or the Barracks attacks last year.

Another difference is that members of PIRA wanted (and likely still do) a united Ireland. This lot on the other hand.. they're doing it for the bloodshed. Note how these groups sprung up when PIRA "put down arms"? Thats pretty much why they did, as they want to continue the fighting.

The vast majority of them are ex PIRA (and I use the term ex with some scepticism).
Look at the (suspected) sizes of the two groups we're comparing here. PIRA was thought to be about several hundred. CIRA/RIRA is thought to not number more than 50-100. You see what i'm getting at? Note also, I didn't say that there weren't members of PIRA that weren't much the same. Its a splinter group for gods sake, of course it'll have ex-PIRA members in.

Not to say that I agree with PIRA's tactics, or what they did - I just have some respect for them as a result of what they were fighting for, although better more peaceful methods would have been infinitely preferable.

What do you think they were fighting for? Taking your logic to its conclusion, do you have respect for the Taliban?
Not for the sake of a united Ireland, I can tell you that now. PIRA was. The new lot? Not a chance. And no, I don't respect the Talibs. Know why? The Republicans want a united Ireland, and equality. What do the Taliban want? Want to remind me of some of the laws when they were in power before we went in? As it certainly isn't equality.

Considering the situation that the Catholics were in in NI, I can actually understand why they were fighting. The massive discrimination, the huge amount of crap that we put them through for the best part of 400 years plus... Its not actually that surprising.

Given the contradictory nonsense of most of you post it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Tube.
A typo, in fact that I only spotted after you'd responded. I'd actually meant "It'd be detrimental to their aims in the long run for them to stop dissident activity from taking place.". Is that better diddums?
 

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#19
Squiggers said:
BuggerAll said:
Squiggers said:
Christ, just when it was thought that it'd all quietened down again...
I suppose you will be voting Labour too. Please try not to believe all of Gordon's lies.
Good god no. I was more referring to the fact that we hadn't had any incident (at least, reported in the papers or by the beeb) in several months since the barracks attacks to my knowledge anyway.
Blair declared peace and the idiot has a lot riding on it. The beeb is not allowed to report anything that runs contrary to it. I don't thin k EOD would describe it as peaceful.

On a more cheerful note I saw this article in the Independent.
 
#20
Memory says that there is a Crippled ex RMP S/Sgt still carrying a round meant for Gerry.

john
And the swine has never said Thank You for saving my life.
 

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