Captain Kirk - Squaddie or Ponce?

#1
Got to thinking about Star Trek Iconic Hero, Captain Kirk..

here's a guy who flouted rules and regulations all the time [ how many times did he f**k the Prime Directive ?]
a guy who went against the direct orders of his superior officers
a guy who bedded any alien with boobs
wasn't above knocking back some Saurian Brandy with Scottie and others
got himself busted in rank

was he an idiot who should never have been given a command? or a true man of the military ethos ?
 
#2
He wore a corset FFS. Ponce by definition. (And now Bill Shatner is promoting bloomin' fibre cereal. I rest me case.)
 
#3
In Kirk's favour, at least he never had a bloody social worker on the bridge of his Enterprise (though I wouldn't mind helping Picard's social worker get her brown wings!).

No f*cking about with targeting his enemy's weapons or engines either, Kirk just blew them to bits.
 
#4
Capt Kirk obviously knows fcuk all about the exercise of command. How many COs do you know (still living that is) who take the 2IC, RMO and OC Engrs on recce patrols. I rest my case. On a similar note if the A-Team were that fcuking good why did they never manage to kill anyone given that must have fired off the first line stocks 5.56mm for a rifle company in every episode?
 
#5
Squaddie.

In the world's greatest practical joke, he blew up his own ship to pee off a group of people he didn't like and then got out of it by nicking two whales.

And then, just to top it all off, he pissed off God and then blew him up.

Definitely squaddie.
 
#7
Ponce. Tarting around in ripped shirts all the time. Negligent as well: his Q bloke must have expended the Star Fleet CML on Kirk alone
 
#10
Poll or no poll, still a ponce - Cuban-heeled boots in uniform. And there was the implied homo-erotic relationship with Spock..... Vulcan mind meld my arrse.
 
#11
He obviously followed the Clinton rule, " Don't Ask, Don't Tell "..

Mr. Sulu recently came out of the closet to say he was having a Gay Old Time floating around the universe on the good ship Enterprise...

Kirk certainly had a run of bad luck with his ships... How many did he smash up over the course? Picard tried the same , but his use of the ship as weapon thing was just lame...

Kirk didn't have a woman to second guess his every move and help him ' discuss ' matters and see the ' inner good ' in the aliens.. instead of a Counsellor, kirk had a phaser...
 

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#12
rickshaw said:
.. Vulcan mind meld my arrse.
Don't say that at a Trekkie Convention, you get your Brown Star Trek Badge!
 
#13
Fang_Farrier said:
rickshaw said:
.. Vulcan mind meld my arrse.
Don't say that at a Trekkie Convention, you get your Brown Star Trek Badge!
Is that a cue for the first Klingon comment of the thread?
 
#14
And he's still a ponce. Anybody who renders up "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" in the way that he did whilst resting between inter-galactic voyages has to be.
 
#15
Ponce , and his man management on away missions was bobbins.

"Oh let's see - Away team , me, Spock , Bones , Scotty, Uhuru , the bird I'm going to have an affair with and Ensign Johnson who won't be coming back"

How Starfleet had any young Officers left to promote is beyond me, as Kirk was doing for them so often.
 
#16
Anyone ever notice how top-heavy Star Trek was?

NCOs are better not seen and not heard seems to be the other Starfleet management policy.

Oh, and always stroke your own tribble.
 

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#17
Rocketeer said:
Got to thinking about Star Trek Iconic Hero, Captain Kirk..

here's a guy who flouted rules and regulations all the time [ how many times did he f**k the Prime Directive ?]
a guy who went against the direct orders of his superior officers
a guy who bedded any alien with boobs
wasn't above knocking back some Saurian Brandy with Scottie and others
got himself busted in rank

was he an idiot who should never have been given a command? or a true man of the military ethos ?
Being a Spam programme I think you have to think of the fort commander in the wild west to get a comparison.

However, if you look at the Victorian (and before) army and especially navy - these officers were out making their own decisions, pollies did not have the 'input' they have today with micro managing everyone on the ground. Take your list from above and apply it to many naval and army officers of the 19th and 20th centuries.
 

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#18
rickshaw said:
Fang_Farrier said:
rickshaw said:
.. Vulcan mind meld my arrse.
Don't say that at a Trekkie Convention, you get your Brown Star Trek Badge!
Is that a cue for the first Klingon comment of the thread?
I dunno but watch out for the Arrse spiders.
 
#20
Why did anyone in the "away team" wearing a red shirt die horribly? Imagine being in that section? "Right DG! You're off on the away team this afternoon!" - "Get Fcuked big nose, I'm off to see the Unit Welfare Officer!"
 

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