I really dont have a problem with people killing people in warfare. It has been going on since time immemoriable and will until this world burns out.Plenty enough people killed people in the early era of flying to strongly suggest that removing humans from decision loops was a positive thing.
Until the time when the tool over rides the pilot who is doing a fine job, but the programme keeps forcing the nose down.People kill people. Programs are just the tools.
Hopefully, for the sake of their families, there will be enough to make positive identification of all those killed, so they will not be listed amongst the 'missing'. RIP.The wreckage of the crashed helicopter along with human remains has been found by an undersea drone in 3,143 metres of water. Recovery is expected to take some time due to the need to careful to preserve evidence for the crash investigation.
Searchers find wreckage, human remains at scene of Canadian Forces chopper crash
That program would have been designed to keep the nose down for a reason. By a person.I really dont have a problem with people killing people in warfare. It has been going on since time immemoriable and will until this world burns out.
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Until the time when the tool over rides the pilot who is doing a fine job, but the programme keeps forcing the nose down.
That program would have been designed to keep the nose down for a reason. By a person.
Sometimes the algorithms get it wrong. People get it wrong too.
The programmers don't make the decisions - code monkeys write what the software engineers design. Which in turn is based upon a set decision set decided by policy ninjas, legal experts, etc etc.I wouldn't trust a decent programmer to post a letter for me. People who write solid efficient code usually lack [for want of a better word] common sense. "But why would anyone do that?" is something I've heard more than once when reviewing programs that have to interact with 'normal' humans.
A Canadian CC-177 was visiting Sigonella over the weekend, probably collecting what the EDT Hercules has recovered.The operation to recover the remains of the RCN helicopter and crew which crashed in the Mediterranean last month has been ended.
Statement from Rear-Admiral Craig Baines, Commander Maritime Forces Atlantic on the recovery operations of Stalker 22 in the Mediterranean Sea
Multiple pieces of the helicopter were recovered, as has a number of human remains. The latter have not been identified yet. The helicopter was apparently in pieces, including the main cabin.
The recovery ship EDT Hercules will now proceed to Augusta Bay, Italy, near naval air station Sigonella. The recovered items will then be flown back to Canada.
There are more details at the above link, but this is the gist of it. There is no information at this time as to the cause of the crash.
The helicopter was executing a turn at low altitude prior to landing when it hit the water at high speed.Air force flight safety investigators say they are looking at "aircraft system and human factors" in their probe of a CH-148 Cyclone helicopter crash off the coast of Greece at the end of April.
The news report says that the wording used suggests the problem may be with the flight control system."During this final complex manoeuvring turn to close with the ship, the aircraft did not respond as the crew would have anticipated," said the report.
"This event occurred at a low altitude, was unrecoverable and the aircraft entered a high energy descent and impacted the water astern the ship."
The Sikorsky Cyclone is a militarised version of the S-92. Part of the conversion included installing a fly-by-wire system in place of the original analogue hydraulic and cable system.The reference to the aircraft not responding the way the crew "would have anticipated" is significant for two reasons.
It points to possible flight control problems that could be either mechanical or computer-related.
The Cyclone is a militarized version of the Sikorsky S-92 helicopter. Unlike the civilian version, the military Cyclone operates on what's known as a fly-by-wire (FWB) system.
There were earlier problems with the flight control system, which Sikorsky supposedly fixed in a software update. At that time the problem had caused all three flight control computers to shut down and reset themselves. The helicopter dropped about 500 feet before the pilot was able to recover and reset the system.Sikorsky won the contract to supply the Cyclones back in 2004 based on the pledge that it could create a military version of the S-92. The result, according to the commander of the 1st Canadian Air Division, was an almost entirely new aircraft.
"The CH-148 Cyclone is a very different machine than the S-92," Maj.-Gen. Alain Pelletier said at a recent briefing.
"It's not only a militarized version of the S-92 of the helicopter. It's had a number of components, including its mission system — that is the mission, the kit we brought aboard the helicopter to actually support the Royal Canadian Navy."
He called it a "cousin fleet" to the S-92.
Some of those issues presented themselves as Sikorsky pushed to get the CH-148 into service. During a 2017 training mission off Nova Scotia, one of the helicopters experienced a software "glitch."
The malfunction forced all three flight control computers to shut down and reset momentarily. The aircraft dropped about 500 feet before the pilot was able to recover and reset the system.
The air force said the problem was corrected in a software update through the manufacturer.
A more complete explanation will likely require waiting for the final report.An analysis of the flight data recorders has allowed investigators to rule out mechanical failure.
The investigation is looking at the flight control system, which is a high-tech "fly-by-wire" system.
At the time of the crash, the pilot was flying the helicopter in a computer-assisted mode and punched in two commands that appeared to be outside of its programming.
Pellietier said training will be updated to safely allow the fleet to return to operations.
This sounds vaguely reminiscent of the Boeing 737 Max problems, although of course the actual technical means by which it comes about are different. The apparent similarity as I see it is the aircraft's automatic systems doing one thing while the crew are trying to do something else and not being aware that the aircraft would make its own decisions in this regards.While the Directorate of Flight Safety investigation continues, information that the investigation uncovered to date —primarily from the Cyclone’s flight data recorder — allowed the investigative team to replicate the conditions in the CH-148 Cyclone flight simulator and rule out any mechanical failure. This revealed that the aircraft’s flight director was set to hold a specific altitude and airspeed. Thus, during the complex manoeuvring turn to align with the ship, the pilot’s inputs were significantly different from the autopilot settings and the aircraft did not respond in a way that the crew was expecting. The investigative team has confirmed that this rare anomaly only occurred under a very specific and narrow set of circumstances. The crew would have had no previous exposure or experience on how to handle this situation.
With these circumstances now clearly understood, the RCAF has completed a detailed risk assessment and is implementing mitigation measures to allow for the safe resumption of flying operations.
The air force has conducted its first flight of a CH-148 Cyclone since last spring's deadly crash — and the Department of National Defence is signalling it is ready to resume delivery of the remaining maritime helicopters still on order.
A Cyclone belonging to 423 Squadron, based in Shearwater, N.S., conducted a training flight near Halifax Harbour on Monday — almost one week after the military cleared the aircraft to resume operations.
Aircrew are being given refreshed training on avoiding the flight control software problem that brought down a Cyclone off the coast of Greece on April 29, an accident that killed six members of the military.
Jessica Lamirande, a spokeswoman for the Department of National Defence (DND), said CH-148 deliveries will resume shortly after the new flight procedures are formally approved and all aircrew have received their additional training.