Canadian Army Transfer

In need of some help/information on transfering from Brit army to canadian. If anyone has any it would be greatly received, or if you have already done it and how? Cheers
 
Your only allowed to be in their Logistics if you are fat old and lazy.

If you can run fast backwards you will be assigned to a French Canadian Bn.

The first place to start is write to the Canadian Embassy clicky

oh and learn to play Ice Hockey if you want to fit in.
 
You need to be citizen of Canada.
You may apply for citizenship after being a landed immigrant (PR) for 2 years. It takes about 2 years to become a landed immigrant, and you need to apply from outside the country.
Transfer as exists with the Australian army is not an option with the Canadian. Unlike the rest of the commonwealth, Canada will not take foreign types in it's forces, Quebec would winge too much.Well they are French, speaks for itself.
 

RodneyTronic

Swinger
Hi McN

Some right and some wrong advice around here.

I PVR'd last year, immigrated to Canada and enrolled with the CF in Sep.

The CF Recruiting web site tells you all about it here:

http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/v3/engraph/resources/noncanadians_en.aspx?bhfv=8&bhqs=1

I was recently told by HQ Canadian Forces Recruiting Group that there has been a change from Oct last year in that you no longer need to actually hold PR when you enrol. They will enrol you on a temporary work visa provided you have applied for PR. This speeds the immigration somewhat and gets you to Canada sooner. I hear PR takes up to 4 years now.

Thus you DO NOT need to be a Canadian citizen (which takes 3 years of residence in Canada) to join the CF. You need the waiver of citizenship from CFRG.

Come on over and join the rest of us enjoying great work and great quality of life!

The only down side is that they have to want your skills and will only recruit you if they have a vacancy that you can fill. Sadly they don't have a recruiting drive to match the Aussies, but it's worth a try and there are vacancies.

Rodders
 

furry_dude

Old-Salt
Rodney,

I too am thinking about jumping over to the CF.

Quick Q for you (if it's not too personal). did you serve your 22 or transfer your pension over (if that is possible)?

I've done some looking on the net, but can only find advice for getting pension payments and the payment of tax on it (britishexpat website).

Any help would be appreciated.

TVM

furry.
 

RodneyTronic

Swinger
Hi Furry

Being of the rodney variety 22 wasn't necessary, I did serve over 16 and thus have a UK mil pension.

The CF changed their pension rules (bit like AFPS 75 to 05 rule change I guess) in March 2007, so before I joined the CF. Under the old rules I found a pension buy back scheme but it wasn't exactly clear how it worked. Since the new rules came in I cannot find anything about pension buy back for foreign service (there is for Canadian reserves and RCMP). But I was told by the pension department to stick in the forms and they would look into it. You have to apply within a deadline of enroling I cannot remember tonight, 12 months I think.

If I don't hear back from them soon, I will chase them up. No definitive answer now, I'm afraid.

Seems to be that there are still vacancies in most branches of the CF so good luck with your application. Give me a shout by PM if I can help any more.

R_T
 
Hi Rodders,

Longtime since I've posted on here.

I am just about to retire from HMF (26years, LE Major etc) but, and this is a big but ... I hold a Canadian passport by parentage (my dad was a Canadian).

I am thinking of applying for CF but I'm not sure what the lifestyle is like. What is the mindset of CF personnel? Is it very British and pragmatic or American and dogmatic?

Thanks in anticipation,
AA
 

DANJANOU

War Hero
AirborneApe said:
Hi Rodders,
...I am thinking of applying for CF but I'm not sure what the lifestyle is like. What is the mindset of CF personnel? Is it very British and pragmatic or American and dogmatic?

AA
To get a bit of what our mindset is like, lurking at our version of ARRSE may help. www.army.ca

Like here there are sub boards on recruiting, foreign nationals serving, and various trades etc. that may answer some questions for you, although specific stuff will have to come from official CF sourses ie recruiters.
 

RodneyTronic

Swinger
Hi AA

IMHO the mindset sits quite nicely between ... "this is f**king shit" and "give'm hell boy"!

Life's good at the moment, funding is good and the kit is great. Life's busy, tours and training, leave for newbies is a miserly 4 weeks rising to 5 after 5 yrs (6 after 35 I think!). Numbers are a bit down on what they want so recruiting is being pushed hard so there's a nice opportunity for you!!! In comparison the pay is excellent, pension is good, benefits of health and dental care (inc family) are good. There's the same pain in the arse stuff at times, but aside from running the Casino I don't think you get away from that, so, what more can I say?

Come on over and give it a shot, eh?

R_T
 
Hi Furry

Being of the rodney variety 22 wasn't necessary, I did serve over 16 and thus have a UK mil pension.

The CF changed their pension rules (bit like AFPS 75 to 05 rule change I guess) in March 2007, so before I joined the CF. Under the old rules I found a pension buy back scheme but it wasn't exactly clear how it worked. Since the new rules came in I cannot find anything about pension buy back for foreign service (there is for Canadian reserves and RCMP). But I was told by the pension department to stick in the forms and they would look into it. You have to apply within a deadline of enroling I cannot remember tonight, 12 months I think.

If I don't hear back from them soon, I will chase them up. No definitive answer now, I'm afraid.

Seems to be that there are still vacancies in most branches of the CF so good luck with your application. Give me a shout by PM if I can help any more.

R_T
RT, how did you get on with the buy-back? I've just joined and I'm going through the buy-back process now and it isn't clear as to what the cost will be.

Steve
 

Guns

ADC
Moderator
Book Reviewer
RT, how did you get on with the buy-back? I've just joined and I'm going through the buy-back process now and it isn't clear as to what the cost will be.

Steve
He was last on here 2013 and the thread is over a decade old so I guess you're not going to get an answer.
 

Guns

ADC
Moderator
Book Reviewer
If you did get an answer on buy back could you let me know. I might move this to the Canada forum.
 

RodneyTronic

Swinger
Hi Guns

Still on silent watch here! Now at 12 years in my new shade of green. Unfortunately I had to drop my investigation into a pension transfer, because the UK military pension office told me that I needed to set up the pension transfer BEFORE I started receiving my UK mil pension, which I didn't find out until it was too late.

If I find out any more I'll post again.

Edit: Since I found the information page, here is a quote and link:

Service Buyback—Canadian Armed Forces pensions

"Regular and Reserve Force contributors under the Regular Force Pension Plan may buy back
  • CAF service for which you received a lump-sum pension benefit
  • Reserve Force service during which you did not contribute to the Reserve Force Pension Plan
  • service without pay such as maternity and parental leave and
  • service in the Federal Public Service, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, or Her Majesty's Forces" (my added emphasis. "Her Majesty's Forces" means any service in any of her Majesty's other Armed Forces, such as the UK military and includes all Commonwealth forces)
Service Buyback - Plan information - Active member - Canadian Armed Forces pensions - Canada.ca
 
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