Canada tightens grip on disputed Arctic

#1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070710...sovereignty;_ylt=AnTdxoOyGXR3D9o04QFzpjBw24cA

Canada announced plans Monday to increase its Arctic military presence in an effort to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage — a potentially oil-rich region the United States claims is international territory.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said six to eight patrol ships will guard what he says are Canadian waters. A deep water port will also be built in a region the U.S. Geological Survey estimates has as much as 25 percent of the world's undiscovered oil and gas.

"Canada has a choice when it comes to defending our sovereignty over the Arctic. We either use it or lose it. And make no mistake, this government intends to use it," Harper said. "It is no exaggeration to say that the need to assert our sovereignty and protect our territorial integrity in the North on our terms have never been more urgent."

U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins has criticized Harper's promise to defend the Arctic, claiming the Northwest Passage as "neutral waters."
 

Alsacien

MIA
Moderator
#3
Actually the issue of natural resources is secondary in this dispute.

Canada has been receiving the "benefits" of global warming for some time - one of which is projected to be a navigable seaway to the North.

Consider the amount of US sea trade that currently goes via the Panama canal and the picture gets clearer.......
 
#4
The_Goon said:
And your view on this (as if I couldn't guess)?
It seems to me that Canada has lawfull rights for Arctic waters. I guess that Canadian sector of Arctic should exist along with Russian, American, Norwegian and Danish.

As for military activity then Canada as an independent state has right to decide what and where should be deployed.
 

chrisg46

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
a prelude to invading russia probably...
 
#6
Basically, Sergey, you're saying that because Canada is making noise, it justifies what you were saying about Russia claiming its part?

I would actually say the only reason Canada is making noise is because Russia was doing it very recently, spooking the others into making moves.

Another event triggered by Russia. Ho hum.
 
#7
Sergey,

Didn't your country lay claim to a largish chunk of Arctic ice and rock a few weeks ago? You know, the bits for which the Danes, Americans and Canadians have not registered a claim!

Something about an underwater ridge which connects Russia to the Arctic, IIRC.

That's a four way fight then? America, Canada, Denmark and Russia.

I wonder who will win that one?

Litotes
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Seems to me that the Canadians are being eminently sensible. If a navigable seaway opens up then it becomes an attractive and cheaper way to ship from Japan and China to the eastern USA and Europe. Since those waters will be Canadian (200 mile EEZ etc) they have obligations under the UN Convention on Law of the Sea to maintain it as navigable safely (buoyage), provide search and rescue and keep it free of pollution. It's likely they'll need a deep water port up there somewhere for maintenance etc and it would be an attractive place to transfer shipments. There's also the matter of fishing rights and enforcement.

Mind you I don't envy the guys doing the patrols or the people who'll end up working and living in the port. Global warming or no global warming its still going to be dam cold.
 
#9
The_Goon said:
Basically, Sergey, you're saying that because Canada is making noise, it justifies what you were saying about Russia claiming its part?

I would actually say the only reason Canada is making noise is because Russia was doing it very recently, spooking the others into making moves.

Another event triggered by Russia. Ho hum.
Maybe... I mean maybe yes or maybe no. Or maybe it is a result of undercarpet agreement between Russia and Canada (with Russia first and Canada second).

Who knows?
 
#10
Here's an interesting thought, but under the comonwealth rules if the US or Russa get shirty with Canada, dont we have to protect and help Canada?
 
#11
BeerFun! said:
Here's an interesting thought, but under the comonwealth rules if the US or Russa get shirty with Canada, dont we have to protect and help Canada?
Great a rerun of 1812 ! the White House needs burning again :D


there needs to be an international agreement to clearly divide the Artic shelf to prevent misunderstandings and conflict, this way exploration rights will also be established and done as peacefully as can be.

the drillings, diggings and extractions is going to happen anyway.
 
#12
Everyone,

Relax, the arctic is ours. All the persons who live up there (right up to Alert) pay Canadian income tax. There is no debate about ownership. We've built all of the settlements, airports and associated infrastructure. The waterways are patrolled by our Navy and Coast Guard. This string can close now, everyone can go home.
 
#14
Actually, International treaty states that the Arctic is not owned by any country, but that the US, Canada, Russia, Norway and Denmark all have a 200-mile "economic zone" around their coasts.

But if it comes down to it, I would agree that Canada has a better claim than most to the Arctic and its resources.
 
#15
Isn't amazing that when it was a frozen wilderness America made no claims on it what so ever, but if there is now a buck to be made out of it due to global warming which they have helped to cause, then this areas are now theirs
 
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