Can the NHS Cope?

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  1. True or False? I heard a little dickie talking about how allegedly there is a trawl for ITU & Theatre staff to enable the NHS to be able to provide surgical and specialist support for our injured troops.

    Surely, this only puts yet more pressure on the Medical Services staff; Operational Committments, Various Standby Committments and now, if it is true, standby to reinforce the NHS.

    Don’t get me wrong, the support and treatment our troops are receiving on Ops and for those who are injured and subsequently flown back to the UK is excellent however, who would be footing the bill for extra military staff??? The NHS?
  2. I had a cardiac catheter ablation/PVI op tuesday and there were at least 7 staff/technicians in there under the electrophysioligist who was piloting the catheter. Some of the staff were just observing. Several others came in and out during the 7 hour procedure to help with various things and observe too.

    My op was cancelled and brought forward a week, and was 100% succesful, and will not be requiring a 2nd procedure. I was told that that was likely for my condition (persistent AF!)

    So I'm a little biased and think the NHS and its staff worthy of canonisation. And if ops are being brought forward for non life threatening conditions, then there surely must be slack in the system!
  3. The medical staff definitely, although I do wonder about the admin side. I subscribe to their website as there is a hospital up the road and I am looking for work. I came across a clerical job and was scanning through it with a view to applying, I stopped when I discovered the job title was "Breast Feeding Co-ordinator".

    I mean WTF is that all about ffs?
  4. FEEDING BREASTS simples
  5. Well, Stab, if you don't submit your application you're a fcuking hermer!

    Ifyou don't want the job, can you forward the details to me.

  6. Trouble is mate I probably would have ended up working with a load of fat bints with an odour problem - and that's just the staff :lol:
  7. Yeah, you don't want to go back to that. It'd be like working for the IND again.
  8. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    It's a complicated set-up and as ever, not everything is as it seems. At the root of all these things are contracts and these little beasties dictate what can be expected from the military in an NHS environment. For example, one military ITU nurse will be expected to care for a military patient for, lets say, 75% percent of their time and the other 25% will be devoted to NHS work. The NHS cannot then demand or expect to go over an agreed contribution without negotiating contracts, etc. This protects our military staff and also maintains operational effectiveness with deployments, etc. Now thats not to say that at a local level Cpl Military Nurse can't help out his department for an hour or two every now and then but its important not to set a precedent.

    So, it may well be that the NHS are looking for more specialised staff but I'll wager that its no different than it ever has been. Historically, the NHS has always been short of specialised staff particularly ITU so I'm struggling to see whats new about this.

    Bottom line is we don't reinforce the NHS and nor do they expect us to (although there are a few anecdotes flying around about some civ Consultants who believe otherwise) and if the contarcts were re-negotiated then the NHS would pay. Simple really, isn't it?!
  9. Have to agree that on the whole the NHS does an excellent job.

    Re my bold, there may be a bit of slack in parts but a cardiology team aren't much good to a patient with severe trauma. However obtained.

    That apart, glad your procedure was 100% successful, I wish you a speedy recovery.
  10. Thanks GL. I was discharged yesterday and should be back at work in a week or shortly thereafter. The most pain I had was from the trans oesophagal endoscope they pushed down my cakehole before commencing the procedure! I have been prescribed 'lots of ice cream' to bring down the soreness and swelling!
  11. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    Ah, is that what's being asked? I thought it was about support at R4. D'oh!
  12. As I understand it, it is, military staff are required from other units to support the NHS somewhere in the Midlands!
  13. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    You after a scoop?
  14. Wonder where that could be..!!
  15. I thought long and hard about this reply as I don't want to fan the flames so to speak.
    There are elements of truth, as so often is the case in this thread.
    Those bits are not suitable for discussion on this forum. So, it's a topic probably best left alone (Moderator PM me if you wish).
    Suffice to say the NHS are coping magnificently in the sp they provide to us, if you hear anything different it is wrong!
    Nuff Said!