Can i quit if i don't get the job i want?

#1
Hey,

I want to be a military pilot, and i'm too old for the RAF or Navy (I'm 27).

If i apply and get sent to Sandhurst, and then find that the AAC aren't interested in me... can i just leave? I'm not really interested in any other job in the Army.

Thanks!

Mattt
 
#4
Hey,

I want to be a military pilot, and i'm too old for the RAF or Navy (I'm 27).

If i apply and get sent to Sandhurst, and then find that the AAC aren't interested in me... can i just leave? I'm not really interested in any other job in the Army.

Thanks!

Mattt
Yeah any time you like. I don't know what you've heard about sandhurst either but don't worry it's a piece of piss, this is from the dvd the army send you before you go to let you know what life at Sandhurst is like YouTube - ‪British Army: Guide to Sandhurst‬‏.
 

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#5
Hey,

I want to be a military pilot, and i'm too old for the RAF or Navy (I'm 27).

If i apply and get sent to Sandhurst, and then find that the AAC aren't interested in me... can i just leave? I'm not really interested in any other job in the Army.

Thanks!

Mattt
Great post you can stay, A Certain Mr jarrod will present you with your Brown wings, Just after the Medical.
 
#6
hahaha, i suppose i set myself up for this.

I was actually being serious though. If a person applied to be a civilian teacher and didn't get a job they wouldn't be forced to be a garage mechanic or restaurant chef instead... they would just go apply for whatever job they wanted elsewhere. Obviously the military is different to civilian work and i just wanted to know if you could leave or if you would have to take whatever job they had going.

I have always wanted to be a pilot, and if i can't be, i'd probably go do a postgrad in uni or go to med school. I graduated in psychology and could go that route. Everyone's got to decide what they do and don't want to do in life, and that's what i want.

I wouldn't mind being infantry, and i reckon it looks like good fun, but i want something that will provide opportunities for a civilian career after my service (eg. commercial pilot). People i know who've been in the army say that being in the infantry etc leaves you with little to do afterwards.

So whilst there are other jobs in the army that i reckon i'd like, the only one i think i would like more than my civilian opportunities is to be a pilot.
 
#7
Not being funny but if it's something you've always wanted to do, why wait until you are 27? And why graduate in psychology??

I'm standing by to be corrected, but I thought AAC preferred potential pilot recruits to be towards the minimum age bracket.
 
#8
hahaha, i suppose i set myself up for this.

I was actually being serious though.
Ok, so a serious reply: I'm someone who is currently going through the recruiting process, soon off to sandhurst and I've had the recruitment and choice of arm proccess explained and gone over again and again.

My advice would be: If you are only planning on going to Sandhurst to be a pilot, don't bother going at all. A lot of things could happen along the way which stop you being a pilot, be it medical failure, failure to be selected at the RSB or failing flying training after you commission.

None of your training at Sandhurst will be to do with being a pilot, and if you fail to get selected for the AAC you say you want to bin it? Poor attitude and poor motivation in my opinion (for what its worth, which is admittedly not much).
 
#10
Oh and I forgot to mention, look at the other threads discussing the possible lowering age limit for entry to sandhurst to 26, you'll want to get your skates on if you are going to apply.
 
#11
I take it you are aware that the Army only fly Helicopters. Why not get a "proper" job in the city and then pay to learn to fly as, quite clearly, your motivation for a life in the Army is, at best, a bit suspect.
 
#12
It sounds like you want to be a pilot but not a leader of men. This sort of motivation is fine for the RAF (apologies to our light blue brethren, but RAF pilots do not lead). From my dealings with them, the AAC seem to want their officers to be Army officers first and foremost and pilots second, therefore they are unlikely to be interested in potential officers who only want to fly and not lead. Whether junior AAC officers actually get the opportunity to exercise much leadership is a separate debate.

As to the age piece, I think you may struggle a bit to appear as a competitive candidate. The AAC is one of the most competitive cap-badges to commission into, lots of people want to so they can take their pick.
 
#13
Hey,

I want to be a military pilot, and i'm too old for the RAF or Navy (I'm 27).

If i apply and get sent to Sandhurst, and then find that the AAC aren't interested in me... can i just leave? I'm not really interested in any other job in the Army.

Thanks!

Mattt
You sound like just the sort of person we don't want... jog on and get a job elsewhere.
 
#14
Amazingly, someone in my Company did leave RMAS when he didn't get either of his choices. I actually thought it was a bit of a sh*t system at Sandhurst for Regimental Selection Boards; why wait until Senior's to find out where you're going?

But if you want to go to Sandhurst; learn how to type properly for ****'s sake.
 
#15
Amazingly, someone in my Company did leave RMAS when he didn't get either of his choices. I actually thought it was a bit of a sh*t system at Sandhurst for Regimental Selection Boards; why wait until Senior's to find out where you're going?

But if you want to go to Sandhurst; learn how to type properly for ****'s sake.
So they can get a good look at you? weed out the wasters, and find out what your strengths are during the first part of training and a chance to mellow, or sharpen up. Also gives those who may not have thought about other ooptions the chance to see those options prior to selection.
 
#16
hahaha, i suppose i set myself up for this.

I was actually being serious though. If a person applied to be a civilian teacher and didn't get a job they wouldn't be forced to be a garage mechanic or restaurant chef instead... they would just go apply for whatever job they wanted elsewhere. Obviously the military is different to civilian work and i just wanted to know if you could leave or if you would have to take whatever job they had going.

I have always wanted to be a pilot, and if i can't be, i'd probably go do a postgrad in uni or go to med school. I graduated in psychology and could go that route. Everyone's got to decide what they do and don't want to do in life, and that's what i want.

I wouldn't mind being infantry, and i reckon it looks like good fun, but i want something that will provide opportunities for a civilian career after my service (eg. commercial pilot). People i know who've been in the army say that being in the infantry etc leaves you with little to do afterwards.

So whilst there are other jobs in the army that i reckon i'd like, the only one i think i would like more than my civilian opportunities is to be a pilot.
Its a shame you're too old for the RAF. You sound perfect for them...... 'I just want to be a pilot and dont really give a shit about being an officer'.
 
#17
Wow, i'm surprised there could be so much judgement going on with so little information.

Regarding the comment on my choice of degree, i have always been interested in psychology so whilst maybe a degree in a (proper) science or something might have been more attractive to the military, i wanted to do something that i would enjoy to fall back on.

Regarding my age. The reason i didn't join earlier was due to family and medical issues, and i'm pretty confident my reasons would be acceptable if i explained them in an interview.

Finally, i do want to be an officer and i do want to lead men. If i didn't then i'd just become a civilian pilot or i'd learn to fly in my spare time. But is it really so absurd that someone would want a particular job in the army? I want to be an officer but i also want to be a pilot.

Honestly, i think i would like being an infantry officer or any of a myriad of army officer roles. But if you asked me to rank potential jobs that i could try for, it'd be pilot first, then psychiatrist, then psychologist, then other army roles. So the decision i have to make is whether to forego a career in the health service for a career in the military where i may in fact end up with a job that i think i would enjoy less than those two civilian jobs i mentioned.

Just to add a note, if i became a psychiatrist or psychologist then i would probably aim to do so with the military. Lots of my family have served and i have a lot of respect for the military so if i went into medicine i'd want to be helping soliders. But nonetheless, this is not something i could just do from sandhurst, i'd have to go back to school first.

I hope this clarifies my original question, which i admit must look like i just want to have fun flying choppers and not really care about the service. That's not the case. I tried to be blunt and as to the point as possible so as not to bore you all with the details of what i want from life and why i haven't joined yet. I just wanted to know to what extent i'd be free to do whatever career i wanted.

Some of you have provided useful responses, and i now know you join the army as an officer first and a pilot second.
 
#18
Here's how it works. You tip up at the recruiting office and say 'I want to be an officer please and I'm interested in becoming an Army Pilot too'. You then get offered the chance to go through selection. If you'd posted your last reply as an opening gambit, you would have got useful advice.

You do see that you go through RMAS to become a member of the Officer Corps and then wherever you are found to be suitable, are streamed in to that particular role. If you have the aptitude, you may be allowed to go pilot. If not, you will be offered another role. If you choose to take that alternative because your heart really is in becoming a leader of men then thats what its all about. If you chin it off cos you dont fancy it then that too is your choice. You are more than free to become a plastic doctor with a random degree.

I'm still not sure you fully 'get it' so I would still suggest you try the aggressive wing of EasyJet for a job.
 
#19
If you want to be a head shrinker working with the forces, if your app for pilot doesn't go through you could always apply to be a phsyco in the forces...

We have phsyc nurses, so maybe we have officer type head feelers too.
 
#20
You can leave Sandhurst right up until the moment of commissioning. However as you get closer to midnight on the day, the measures you need to take will have to take to get out quickly will be more severe!

27 is quite old for AAC mate tbh.
 

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