Can EU nationals join the TA?

#1
Hi all,

I am an Italian national and have been working as a police officer in the UK for the past three years in a variety of roles.

Since coming to the UK back in 1999 I have wanted to join the UK military but nationality and passport issues have prevented me from doing so.

Can anyone tell me if I can join the TA as a permanent UK resident from the EU?
 
#2
I could be wrong here but generally the TA follow the same recruiting criteria as the regulars, ie no passport no can do.

However as an Italian can you tell me if its true that your tanks in WW2 had 1 forward gear and 6 reverse ?
 
#3
I'm assuming that as you can't join the military due to nationality issues you won't be able to join the TA as it is part of said same military.

Though I may be wrong... Go online to the army careers website .
www.armyjobs.mod.uk and have a chat with the online recruiters
 
#4
Even if the TA would allow you to join, the police often have an issue with officers joining. Unless there's been a recent change in policy, you have to get the permission of the Chief Constable and they usually say no.
 
#5
EU nationals are forbidden to join the armed forces. Only Britisih and commonwealth citizens may join. There's even a cluase in the EU employment rules exempting armed forces from having to employ foreign citizens.
 
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#6
Italians in the British army?
I fcuking hope not!!! If we let you in then it’ll be the French next and then where will be…





On second thoughts, would you be willing to undergo training as cannon fodder?
 
#7
Invictus22 said:
Hi all,

I am an Italian national and have been working as a police officer in the UK for the past three years in a variety of roles.

Since coming to the UK back in 1999 I have wanted to join the UK military but nationality and passport issues have prevented me from doing so.

Can anyone tell me if I can join the TA as a permanent UK resident from the EU?
Interesting, probably its possible if you can be a Police man then you should be able to be in the TA - good luck and keep us posted about how it goes.


hmmm....I sense a change in the TA's recruitment problems....
 
#8
Invictus22 said:
Can anyone tell me if I can join the TA as a permanent UK resident from the EU?
I can, and you can't.

Unless you get a British passport, and even then you are going to be subject (as I was) to extensive background checks.

FF.
 
#9
WhiteHorse said:
EU nationals are forbidden to join the armed forces. Only Britisih and commonwealth citizens may join.
With the noble exception of the Irish of course who are a) EU citizens and b) neither British nor Commonwealth.

They are, however, probably just the exception that proves the rule, although I did meet a Scandinavian chap who was a TA officer in a Scottish regiment and who proudly showed me a picture of him in a very Ruritarian get-up with medals etc from when he had served in his own country's army. Damned if I can remember which nation unfortunately. (And no, he wasn't a Walt; we met in Gorni Vakuf not down a pub although there was Slivo in evidence!)
 
#10
Purple_Flash said:
WhiteHorse said:
EU nationals are forbidden to join the armed forces. Only Britisih and commonwealth citizens may join.
With the noble exception of the Irish of course who are a) EU citizens and b) neither British nor Commonwealth.

They are, however, probably just the exception that proves the rule,
Ireland are ex commonwealth, pulled out in the late 40's. I'm originally from the south and have been living here for just over 5.5 years and I still have an Irish passport. No problems joining the TA, the security clearance took farking ages to come through though. The only thing the PSAO insisted on was for me to get a UK driving licence. There is a requirement to have lived here for 5 years before applying but this seems to not be too much of an issue as I had been here 4 years at the time I was attested.

Don't know about other EU citizens. The only other foreigner I know in the TA is from Zimbabwe.
 
#11
I know some former commonwealth countries can join but rules have recently changed especially regarding South Africa. Ring the unit and ask them - there's a rule book which every unit has and they can tell you for sure.
 
#12
Interesting question.

Have you any specialist skills or languages Invictus? Are you still liable for Military service in Italy?

What sort of TA unit were you looking to join?
 
#13
Italian, presumably...

msr
 
#15
polar69 said:
I could be wrong here but generally the TA follow the same recruiting criteria as the regulars, ie no passport no can do.

However as an Italian can you tell me if its true that your tanks in WW2 had 1 forward gear and 6 reverse ?
Of course to say that all Italian troops during the WW2 ran away is both histroricaly innacurate and also unfair, not all Italian soldiers ran away, some of them gave themselves up!!! :headbang:
 
#16
Invictus22 said:
Hi all,

I am an Italian national and have been working as a police officer in the UK for the past three years in a variety of roles.

Since coming to the UK back in 1999 I have wanted to join the UK military but nationality and passport issues have prevented me from doing so.

Can anyone tell me if I can join the TA as a permanent UK resident from the EU?
Sounds like it would be very easy for you to get a UK passport, which would take care of the nationality aspect. The UK Govt don't mind if people have dual nationality. Don't know what the Italian Govt think,but how would they find out?

If you can't wait to get UK nationality, then I would recommend asking units directly. Although the official answer is 'no, you can't join', exceptions are made. I have seen this first hand. Don't give up after 1 or 2 rejections!

However, as an Italian, don't bother with the RLC. They wouldn't employ anybody that knows about decent food :biggrin:
 
#17
Pork_Pie said:
However, as an Italian, don't bother with the RLC. They wouldn't employ anybody that knows about decent food :biggrin:
But would be welcomed in the transport regiments, as the standard of driving would improve!!!!! :thumright:
 
#18
MightyBigEgo said:
Pork_Pie said:
However, as an Italian, don't bother with the RLC. They wouldn't employ anybody that knows about decent food :biggrin:
But would be welcomed in the transport regiments, as the standard of driving would improve!!!!! :thumright:
Or in the REME - give that 4-tonner an Italian tune up!
 
#19
EU citizens with the exeption of Irish citizens are not allowed to enlist in the Armed Forces.

Commonwealth citizens are. The British Army doesn't have a problem enlisting South Africans - however a new South African law causes them problems with enlisting in foreign armed forces- I understand those currently serving are getting offered British Citizenship but there must be a saffa on here that can confirm that.

I have a mate in the TA in London that has joint Italian and British citizenship (he's been in over 10 years). It seems the best way forward is to apply for a British passport and then as a dual national you would be perfectly eligible. He did have a bit of a faff a few years back when serving in Bosnia when he got his call up papers for Italian national service! that took a bit of sorting out.
 
#20
Yeah. I agree. I was born and raised in the US and still hold a US passport.

I have lived here for 20 years now, and am as British as I'll ever be. I have a British passport and a commission (pending confirmation from Glasgow) in the TA.

The only bugger is the security clearance takes forever...

FF.
 

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