Cameron's cheap alchohol tax.

Mr_Fingerz

LE
Book Reviewer
#2
Might I point the gentleman to the levels of Excise duty on tobacco products, the requirement for health warnings on tobacco products and the fact that tobacco products may no longer be displayed?
 
#3
It's not a tax tho' is it? They are planning that the minimum retail price has to be fixed at a minimum of 45p per alcoholic unit which in real terms will have very little effect considering say a pint of beer at 4% costs more than £1.80 anyway.
 
#6
It's not a tax tho' is it? They are planning that the minimum retail price has to be fixed at a minimum of 45p per alcoholic unit which in real terms will have very little effect considering say a pint of beer at 4% costs more than £1.80 anyway.
even a can falls below this
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
I assume DC's Lib 'allies' will demend an increase in 'benefits' so that the recipients are not priced out of three litre plastic bottles of cider.
 
#8
Very annoying article this:
David Cameron plans minimum alcohol price in England - Telegraph

Does anybody actually believe that this is anything other than a stealth tax. Since when has this or any govt given any regard to the health of the people in this nation.
Should've been done ages ago. Ask the police and ambulance bods how much of their time is taken up by drink related shennanigans. If a tenth of the people who stagger around town centres on saturday nights can't afford to get blind drunk as a result of this it'll save us money and make the world a nicer place.
 
#9
The only people it will realistically have effect on will be those whose sole criteria for alcohol is getting pissed as cheaply as possible.

Mind you, with his great wealth, Ord_Sgt will be just fine.
 
#10
If you cannot afford to pay 45pence a unit or you pallet doesn't allow you to discern that you are drinking such shite - you have no business drinking!
 
#12
Well it has raised questions in Scotland since being passed last May. Once more, the EU have stepped in and have said it woud be illegal!!

Also, drink like Buckfast is exempt as it is a "tonic"...and therefore the minimum pricing has totally missed the mark.
 
#13
If you read the article he is trying to say that its all about a health crisis. That is just bollox.
 
#15
If you cannot afford to pay 45pence a unit or you pallet doesn't allow you to discern that you are drinking such shite - you have no business drinking!
Not really. For example, a bottle of Smirnoff Vodka has 40 units. So a litre at this new rate will be £18.00. Currently on offer at supermarkets at £15 so they will no longer be allowed these offers. The cheap stuff will be a thing of the past because why would you buy a bottle of "Cheap Russian Vodka made in China" when you can get the premium brand for the same price? However, for a 70cl bottle of wine, the minimum price would be £4.05 so those "Cheapo Spanish Plonko" or "Der Deutsche Hock" so beloved by the Co-op will go up about a quid a bottle. Decent wine will stay be expensive (so saying, just bought 6 bottles of Rioja Reserva at our local shop at €1.69 a bottle - same brand in UK is £8.99 on special offer at a well known wine store at the moment).
For beer, which often contains 1.8 units per can, supermarkets have many offers at 24 for £10. The new rule, if it comes in, will mean that will be nearly £20 minimum. Watch the amount of smuggled booze and counterfeit liquor suddenly flooding the market if this does come in.
 
#16
Still it'll help out struggling ferry companies and van hire firms.
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#17
Not really. For example, a bottle of Smirnoff Vodka has 40 units. So a litre at this new rate will be £18.00. Currently on offer at supermarkets at £15 so they will no longer be allowed these offers. The cheap stuff will be a thing of the past because why would you buy a bottle of "Cheap Russian Vodka made in China" when you can get the premium brand for the same price? However, for a 70cl bottle of wine, the minimum price would be £4.05 so those "Cheapo Spanish Plonko" or "Der Deutsche Hock" so beloved by the Co-op will go up about a quid a bottle. Decent wine will stay be expensive (so saying, just bought 6 bottles of Rioja Reserva at our local shop at €1.69 a bottle - same brand in UK is £8.99 on special offer at a well known wine store at the moment).
For beer, which often contains 1.8 units per can, supermarkets have many offers at 24 for £10. The new rule, if it comes in, will mean that will be nearly £20 minimum. Watch the amount of smuggled booze and counterfeit liquor suddenly flooding the market if this does come in.
I did read that they were going to heavily tax cross channel ferries for the very harmful to the environment fuel they use.
 
#18
Working this out its also going to play spunk with the companies who have introductory special promotions, like Virgin Wines.
 
#19
The French, Germans, Spanish etc seem to be able to have cheap alcohol available pretty much 24 hours a day without their streets resembling Rorke's Drift every Friday and Saturday night.

Could it be that they know that if they act like pricks then their coppers will (a) will give them one chance then knock **** out of them and (b) after that they'll be in the cells until their court appearance when sober?
 
#20
The French, Germans, Spanish etc seem to be able to have cheap alcohol available pretty much 24 hours a day without their streets resembling Rorke's Drift every Friday and Saturday night.

Could it be that they know that if they act like pricks then their coppers will (a) will give them one chance then knock **** out of them and (b) after that they'll be in the cells until their court appearance when sober?

Yes it could, on both counts.

However there's a bit of a addendum, if you phone the Polizia in Rome to say that the lads outside the local are being a bit rowdy, they'll ask you if they're breaking things, abusing anyone, fighting or doing anything else illegal. If you reply that they're just singing Dean Martin songs badly, you'll be told that that's what happens outside bars. Ditto complaining to the Gendarme in rural France that there's a bunch of headers playing petanque in the square at une heure. No action taken, people are having fun, nobody dies, nobody gets jailed.

Might be over egging the pudding a little there, but the continental attitude to having a beer or six involves both give and take with regard to what's considered "acceptable".

I prefer the European version meself.

Edit:- I suppose we're actually the middle ground after a fashion, in much of the US you will get arrested for being one over the eight in public (outside of a bar), whether you're annoying anyone or not.
 

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