Cameron in Afghan visit to troops

#1
BBC News

David Cameron has arrived in Afghanistan for his third visit to British troops since becoming leader of the Conservative party.

He has said Afghanistan is the UK's number one foreign policy priority.

He is accompanied by shadow foreign secretary William Hague and is expected to unveil proposals for troop welfare.

There is growing speculation that the government could increase the 8,200-strong UK force in Afghanistan to 12,000 as operations wind down in Iraq.
 
#2
Cameron is a nobody; why does he feel he need to visit the troops! "Hi there, I'm David Cameron, I'm not the Prime Minister and I have no say in anything"!!

He also went out to Gorgia, why? What could he possibly achieve in Gorgia? He has no place in international politics!

What a tosser!

G82
 
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#3
Galileo82 said:
Cameron is a nobody; why does he feel he need to visit the troops! "Hi there, I'm David Cameron, I'm not the Prime Minister and I have no say in anything"!!

He also went out to Gorgia, why? What could he possibly achieve in Gorgia? He has no place in international politics!

What a tosser!

G82
If Labour continues on its fall from grace, who do you think is most likely to be our next PM?
 
#4
Wouldn't it be better if all these bloody politicians just left the lads alone to get on with more important stuff, like washing their socks or gonking? There surely must be a photo-op with some Z-list celebs going begging somewhere in blighty?
 
#5
Don't forget, he is also a MP and as leader of the opposition he should be out and seeing for himself what is important. In this way he can ensure he is best placed to challenge the governement of the day, all part of the democratic process.
 
#6
smartascarrots said:
Wouldn't it be better if all these bloody politicians just left the lads alone to get on with more important stuff, like washing their socks or gonking? There surely must be a photo-op with some Z-list celebs going begging somewhere in blighty?
I would rather the politicians heard it from the horse's mouth than via the MOD spin machine.

msr
 
#7
WhiteHorse said:
Don't forget, he is also a MP and as leader of the opposition he should be out and seeing for himself what is important. In this way he can ensure he is best placed to challenge the governement of the day, all part of the democratic process.
Seconded. Irrespective of what you think, it is really incumbent upon him to learn the background to the most important things - what's better, a future PM who gives a sh1t or one that does not? For my money, the way to go about this is quietly, no cameras and listen. I always get uncomfortable when the cameras are out for politicians, it makes everyone highly suspicious of their motives even if they are entirely honourable.
 
#8
Well we shall see if he uses it as a chance to learn the truth or it is just another photo oppertunity, at least with Hauge there also he might come back with some hard questions for PMQ's with One Eye.
 

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#9
msr said:
smartascarrots said:
Wouldn't it be better if all these bloody politicians just left the lads alone to get on with more important stuff, like washing their socks or gonking? There surely must be a photo-op with some Z-list celebs going begging somewhere in blighty?
I would rather the politicians heard it from the horse's mouth than via the MOD spin machine.

msr
He'd learn more by surfing arrse for an hour, and it would be much cheaper for the taxpayer than flying all that way to meet carefully-selected members of the military.
 
#10
Cameron on leave:

PA said:
David Cameron has insisted British forces are getting a raw deal over their leave as he met troops in Afghanistan.

The Tory leader called for rest periods to start when personnel arrived home - rather than when they departed operations.

Mr Cameron announced the policy after chatting with soldiers over breakfast at the British Lashkar Gah base in volatile Helmand province.

Currently flights back from Afghanistan can be delayed days before reaching the UK.

Mr Cameron - visiting the troubled country for the third time since taking charge of the Conservative Party - said: "I think this is fair for our troops. They should be able to predict how long their leave is going to be rather than having to spend it on an aeroplane and on air bases a long way from home."
The PA
 

Graa

Old-Salt
#11
Even if he is a smug git, we'd only be complaining if he WASN'T going out there and doing what he is.

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

But, considering he is most likely going to be the next PM short of a Labour miracle or Tory tragedy, then I'm glad he's getting himself organised properly and making policy promises we can hold him to later.
 
#12
msr said:
smartascarrots said:
Wouldn't it be better if all these bloody politicians just left the lads alone to get on with more important stuff, like washing their socks or gonking? There surely must be a photo-op with some Z-list celebs going begging somewhere in blighty?
I would rather the politicians heard it from the horse's mouth than via the MOD spin machine.

msr
But is the sheer quantity of these visits necessary? Why not just send one bod per party - the Defence spokesman OR the leader. Not both plus the odd MP plus various Ministers plus Shadow Ministers plus Secretaries of State and Uncle Tom Cobbleigh.
 
#14
It would perhaps look better if he took Patrick Mercer with him on his visit, rather than Hague - someone who knows a little about soldiering, rather than one who has spent his adult life in politics. This might give him more credibility with the troops he's visiting. Just a thought.
 
#15
I'm outraged, the leader of the opposition having the temerity to go to an operational theatre. Why can't they leave the lads alone to get on with the job, bringing their publicity machines with them.

Mind you, there's one thing that really gets my goat, and that's politicians not getting out into the field with the blokes to find out what's really going on, and get a feel for the situation themselves (as far as possible). Now that would really outrage me.



Hang on...
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#16
He's made no mention of a willingness to bring about root-and-branch change to the funding of the armed forces in light of current ops, shortages and the like AS WELL AS forces personnel welfare.

When (not if) he gets into power, he's going to have to work very hard to find the money in a screwed country to get the armed forces back up to par. Considering the sabre rattling going on, and the increase in funding for armed forces that our potential enemies are getting at this time, he's got a long way to go to put things right, and Broon is doing his best to ensure that he'll not find the money ANYWHERE when he takes over.
 
#18
Hows about if all Polititians looking for future iconic photo ops in front of a large armoured vehicle be pointed in the general direction of the Tank Museum at Bovvie? Either that or whilst in Iraqistan drive themselves solo in a Snatch? May reduce the workload for all forces personnel concerned by about 100%.

Just a thought.

P-T
 
#19
To be fair to him, I know people who've done his pre trip briefings and by all accounts he takes this stuff bloody seriously. Say what you want about his politics, Cameron and his top team do genuinely give a damn about progress in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
#20
Visiting politicians don't give rise to a great deal of effort - there are a whole stream of other visitors (mainly mil/some civ) so it is not particularly hard for the SO3 Vists & MediaOps/whoever to do their day job and fit them in. Any minor annoyance is far outweighed by the benefits of getting politicians to really see what is going on, and hear it from the equine oral zone.
 

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