Camalot rip off

#1
It now seems that if you play the lottery, on the web, while abroard in some countrys you may be breaking local laws and cannot win, but Camalot have not been very clear on this and have made a lot of money

another effin rip off
 

CountryGal

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#2
tropper66 said:
It now seems that if you play the lottery, on the web, while abroard in some countrys you may be breaking local laws and cannot win, but Camalot have not been very clear on this and have made a lot of money

another effin rip off
erm - just one look at the FAQ http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/faqs.ftl#int_GetStarted3 and it says:
Can I play while overseas?

Please remember, you need to be a resident of the UK or Isle of Man at all times when you play UK National Lottery games through your interactive Account.

In countries outside of the UK and Isle of Man, local laws often prevent the sale or purchase of tickets for any overseas lottery. To protect players and the UK National Lottery, the National Lottery Rules and Terms and Conditions prohibit people from playing online in any country where it is unlawful to do so. Lawfulness will vary from country to country and, possibly, from time to time. This also means that, under local laws and National Lottery rules, we would not be able to pay out any prize in these circumstances.

Therefore, we would advise players to assume that it is unlawful to purchase a ticket whilst abroad, and to only buy their tickets whilst located in the UK or Isle of Man. We would therefore advise you only to buy your tickets online when you are actually located in the UK or the Isle of Man. This also applies when playing by text.

where is it unlcear?
 
#4
frenchie said:
If that is their stance then why not copy what 4OD and BBCi player do. You cannot use them abroad, simple.
You can if you use Firfox, Foxyproxy
 
#5
tropper66 said:
frenchie said:
If that is their stance then why not copy what 4OD and BBCi player do. You cannot use them abroad, simple.
You can if you use Firfox, Foxyproxy
Excellent, my missus will be chuffed now she can watch Grand designs to her hearts content.

Back to Camelot if they implemented this block it would show willing surely?
 

Legs

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#7
BFBS Radio warned of this for ages. Anyone who buys a ticket whilst outside UK will forfeit their winnings. Even British Forces at a BFPO address. Now that really stinks!
 
#8
I wonder how much this little con has made over the last few years
 

CountryGal

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#9
Legs said:
BFBS Radio warned of this for ages. Anyone who buys a ticket whilst outside UK will forfeit their winnings. Even British Forces at a BFPO address. Now that really stinks!
On the BFPO site they also have a note in the do not send items list for packets, that you cant send a lottery ticket
 

CountryGal

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#10
tropper66 said:
I wonder how much this little con has made over the last few years
Prolly shedloads I suspect - maybe thats why they dont use the technology to change their systems to recognise the IP address and block it / or ask the question to make you stop and realise youre wasting your money
 
#11
You can't totally blame Camelot as when I tried to play I of course had to set up an account.

At the bottom of the page was this:

You must be aged 16 or over and a UK or Isle of Man resident to register
Even though geography was never my strongpoint, I do realise France isn't part of the UK. But perhaps there lies the problem, it should be.
 
#13
Stop crying you freaks!

With odds of 16 million+ to 1 of winning the jackpot, it's a rip-off, end of, full stop, that's all she wrote, the fat lady sang.

Trying to win the lottery in a country where it's banned is, well, like trying to win the lottery. It's never going to be you.
 
#15
Mugatu2 said:
tropper66 said:
I wonder how much this little con has made over the last few years
It's a hell of a life at Camelot
They eat ham and jam and spamalot.
And it's such a droll place
 

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#16
I think the issue isn't that you will not get the winnings if you play while abroad. It's the fact that Camelot still take your money. it is on a simular note to all the phone in scams the have recently hit the BBC. They are taking peoples money even though there is 0 chance of them ever getting a penny in return.
 

Legs

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#17
mistersoft said:
You can't totally blame Camelot as when I tried to play I of course had to set up an account.

At the bottom of the page was this:

You must be aged 16 or over and a UK or Isle of Man resident to register
Even though geography was never my strongpoint, I do realise France isn't part of the UK. But perhaps there lies the problem, it should be.
Funny how BFPO is considered UK for some things, but not the ones that benefit the guys!
 
#18
Legs said:
mistersoft said:
You can't totally blame Camelot as when I tried to play I of course had to set up an account.

At the bottom of the page was this:

You must be aged 16 or over and a UK or Isle of Man resident to register
Even though geography was never my strongpoint, I do realise France isn't part of the UK. But perhaps there lies the problem, it should be.
Funny how BFPO is considered UK for some things, but not the ones that benefit the guys!
I take it Sky are still being awkward? I've lost count of the systems I've fitted where the card had been forwarded by mum (or other friend/relative) in the UK.
 
#19
No, I agree that its not clear - you can still be a UK resident whilst temporarily overseas, and indeed British forces working abroad clearly remain their status as UK residents for tax purposes etc.

If you're temporarily abroad, paying from a UK bank account, and have a normal status and postal address as a UK resident then I cannot see how you would be in breach of Lottery rules by logging your choice of numbers somewhere else.
 
#20
I wonder if perhaps the reason for this coming out only now was due to someone recently winning abroad? not 100% sure but I think it mentioned on the news a while ago that the winner of the recent big jackpot (100million-ish i think) may have been a Brit who bought his ticket whilst on holiday in Spain :?

If so........ sniggers :twisted:
 
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