Cadets and SLAM

#1
This is mainly aimed at AI/SI/SSIs, but anyone who knows anything about SLAM can give a valuable contribution.

# Z (Single room, en suite) – The future standard for all trained personnel. Project SLAM will construct 14,000 bed-spaces in the first 5 years with a similar quantity delivered by the parallel projects.

# Z(-) (Single room, shared ablutions) – Widely available, particularly at RAF Establishments. No more will be constructed after 2002 unless sites are so constrained that it is impossible to construct Z.

# Y (Generally a Flat with a 4-person room and 2 single rooms) – The standard adopted in the 1970s and widely found at Army, RM and RN Establishments. This type will disappear completely although some new Y SLA is being constructed at RN and RM Establishments by parallel projects.

# X Standard (4-12 person rooms) – This is being retained for recruit training or courses where the team building ethos is considered to be an important part of the course. SLAM will deliver 5,000 Bedspaces at 8 Training establishments in the first 5 years
SLAM Here

According to that quote, taken from Army SLAM website (link above) there getting rid off the 4-12 man bedrooms apart from certian places. AFAIK, cadets are stuffed into this accomodation on camps and courses. Courses probably don't apply much to this, but what if a cadet camp is held at a place where there isn't any of this type of accomodation available. According to the website, Y accomodation is going completely apart from RN/RM places, so that eliminates those for where the cadets will stay.

That leaves just Z and Z(-) accomodation. Surely the MOD cannot afford to give each cadet their own room for a 1 or 2 week camp? So, what's gonna happen with the cadets? They can't abolish camps at ATEs and such places because, i'd say for more than many cadets, annual camps are the highlight of the year and give them the chance to put what they have learnt to action.
 
#4
When I was an air cadet (yeah shut up and stop taking the piss) I have heard of people staying in single accommodation, but we were usually put tents beside the gym for ablutions. So tents may be the future, we even had a drying tent with a genny hooked up to an heating unit.
 
#5
I can firmly assure you that there will be some sort of transit accm kept on at all camps for when outside units and cadets are transitting through!!
 
#6
barnezy349 said:
Surely the MOD cannot afford to give each cadet their own room for a 1 or 2 week camp?
SLAM is aimed at those who will be living on the camp. Short-term accomodation will not be included for a SLAM upgrade.

Take a look at Pirbright for an example. Phase one trainees get the swanky new blocks while those using the ranges, etc. get to stay on Brunswick lines (the old tin hut things).
 
#10
was also empty in april!
 
#13
Barney do you really think that cadets are going to get SLAM when the majority of the armed forces don't have it. Cadets get put in transit camps for the most part, transit camps aren't renowned for their creature comforts. Count yourself lucky you never had to stay in Oakington barracks near Cambridge. Pre World War 2 accomodation in Nissan huts, nice. The sickening thing is that when 1 R Anglian left there in 1999 for a 2 year residential in NI the place was converted into an immigration holding centre and had £1 million spent doing it up.
 
#14
To be fair, that funding would have been from a different budget to the Defence budget, still tax-payers money but that £1M was not available when the Anglians were there.

Also, £1M would not have paid for much, it probably cost that to do the carpets and curtains ?!
 
#16
OK then, lets get this in perspective:

Cost of Project SLAM (over ten years) - allocated £10 Billion

Cost of refurbishing former barracks to house asylum seekers - £1 million

Reasonably cost-effective ?
 
#17
Why would cadets who don't deploy anywhere and only life at a camp less than 30 nights a year be entitled to SLAM? Surely soldiers who live at camp should have the priority for decent accomodation first. It wasn't the cost effectiveness I was highlighting, it was the fact that soldiers were staying in accomodation that wasn't seen fit to house people who probably shouldn't have been in the country in the first place. I, for one, will be very suprised if SLAM gets completed within 10 years because of the cost of Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
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