Sorry, I don't like US marines much (personal opinion only) but C4 has a program on tonight reviewing the US General public (nobbers) and the families of the bog standard US soldiers. The 2 most fundermental things that come across are 1 the military families that have members (male/female) in the sand pit don't give a flying SH 1 T who rules the country but how their own children are dealing with the situation. This is a front line view of their feelings. In this country we do not have the balls to do such a thing publically. Not only does this program talk through the familial trauma but also the economic expectations. I would like to see such an up-front confontation between those families that have lost children and those that have them in the sand pit and for our glorious bleeder to respond up front, no intermediaries, no spin JUST STAND THERE AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. Irrispective of what nation lost people noone except the USA have the gumption to ask why. This site has promoted the idea that YOU NEED TO VOTE to change things, this should also the site that promotes openess in those that sent us there in the first place. If you didn't see it, I'll look for the link or actual program on the net. Those in the pit need to know that others support THEM and not this stinking government.