C*ck up at pre-rcb effect main board??

#1
Would a cat 3 at the briefing hinder your progress at the main board? Im off to mine next week and had an absolute 'mare' on the command task and plan ex at the briefing which hopefully ive now got sorted .. Are the staff aware of what score you achieved at the briefing and therefore theres not much possibility you will pass? or are you given a blank sheet and its how well you complete the main board that counts??? Hopefully the latter is true.. anyone?? 8O
 
#2
Nope, it shouldn't hinder you that much. I was at RMAS with several people who got Cat 3's. Now that they've ditched RowCo though, RCB Main Board may have to become a bit more selective. It's all down to your sponsor from now on....
 
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#3
Shouldn't matter. Many, many years ago (swings lantern) I was told not to bother going to main board by the hideous Scaleyback fuckwits who ran my pre-RCB (I wasn't joining the Scaleys, I hasten to add, but theirs was the only conveniently timed one). My own mob were relaxed about it and encouraged me to go, which I did, and waltzed off into the sunset with a Bursary which subsequently got upgraded.
 
#4
cheers my minds a little at ease now.. gonna try and turn the negative into a positive and pass the bloody thing next week, atleast i know were i went wrong last time..

- "your travelling at 4mph how long does it take you to travel 17 miles??"
- "er,er,er i dunno, sir"

think that might have had summit do do with it.....
 
#5
Unless you're unlucky enough to have the same DS (which never happens, although some tragic WaLT will no doubt tell me otherwise), your initial bash at pre-RCB/RCB Briefing will only be available to the Deputy President of the Board. This is to ensure that any glaring issues can be caught, but only if they are raised as issues a second time i.e. your Main Board DS spot the same tendency to monging and general wet lettuceness.

Oh yeah, while we're at it. You will probably get some ******** from OTC ordering everyone around during the Dinner Night thing; gobbing off about being videoed, and harping on about passing port the right way. Just do yourself and the Army a favour, and bang them out on the spot.

Good luck with the Board!!

Cheers.
 
#6
By chance if i do mong it and fail hopelessly on the rcb i was considering TA officer (always gotta have a contingency plan), will i be allowed to train as a TA officer or will i have to wait a year to start because of my demise at rcb??

Obviously i wanna pass the main board, but as already being a member of the TA i can see the benefits of staying TA.....
 
#7
Errrr....failing Main Board does not preclude you from being a TA officer at all. After all, if people were good enough to pass Main Board, they wouldn't be TA officers, would they?

I'm not slagging the TA at all, but if the requirement for TA officers was as stringent as that for Regular DE officers, the TA would be massively under-strength in terms of officer numbers.

Crack on, but good luck anyway!!
 
#8
After all, if people were good enough to pass Main Board, they wouldn't be TA officers, would they?
Wouldn't it depend on what kind of life they want to lead?

The briefing is identical, and the main board is not that dissimilar-on the TA main board they are looking for a PO that already has already has many of the leadership qualities rather than the ability to develop them during a year at RMAS.

Anyway it will no doubt change when they get to around to implementing this one army one commission malarky that they keep going on about.
 
#9
Calypso said:
Errrr....failing Main Board does not preclude you from being a TA officer at all. After all, if people were good enough to pass Main Board, they wouldn't be TA officers, would they?

I'm not slagging the TA at all, but if the requirement for TA officers was as stringent as that for Regular DE officers, the TA would be massively under-strength in terms of officer numbers.

Crack on, but good luck anyway!!
Second what TA_Sig said. The TA main board and RCB are supposed to be at the same level. In reality people choose whether they want to be in the TA or the regs so that isn't really true.
 
#10
If you look at the RCB webpage you will see the headings for both the TCB and RCB lead to the same link, as previously mentioned the process is the same bar one difference.

You do the mental apptitude tests on the briefing for the TA process.
 
#11
Look...read the shagging posts, people.

For the kast time:

I'M NOT SLAGGING THE TA. IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE SAME CRITERIA APPLY TO BOTH REGULAR AND TA OFFICERS, YOU ARE PLAIN DAFT.

This is a fact - deal with it.

Now, to all those who's bottom lips are wobbling - dry your eyes and wipe your noses. Tap tap, move on!!
 
#12
i was 'shock horror' actually considering staying TA even if i pass main board, in the long-term i would probably be better financially staying part-time (already got a crap grad job), although the thought of mongin it in the office for years to come doesnt actually appeal.

My reckoning is that if i pass the rcb main board and join TA as an officer ive still got the option of going to sandbags full time within 5 years(u can defer cant u?), thats if i decide enough is enough workin in an office (altho the perk of fit office birds struttin round is something i'd miss). It all depends if i pass really but im trying to give myself options, it would be a nice problem to have however......
 
#13
Calypso said:
the TA would be massively under-strength in terms of officer numbers.
I thought it already was...

msr
 
#15
Apollo said:
i was 'shock horror' actually considering staying TA even if i pass main board, in the long-term i would probably be better financially staying part-time (already got a crap grad job), although the thought of mongin it in the office for years to come doesnt actually appeal.

My reckoning is that if i pass the rcb main board and join TA as an officer ive still got the option of going to sandbags full time within 5 years(u can defer cant u?), thats if i decide enough is enough workin in an office (altho the perk of fit office birds struttin round is something i'd miss). It all depends if i pass really but im trying to give myself options, it would be a nice problem to have however......
All well and good, "giving yourself options" but if you don't go into RCB whole heartedly, you stand a good chance of failing. It isn't just a case of getting another job offer.

Westbury is tough, an Army Commission is tough, oh and by the way some of the birds arn't bad.. I remember the parties and BMH Hanover....
 

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#16
TA_sig said:
...it will no doubt change when they get to around to implementing this one army one commission malarky that they keep going on about.
Is that really happening? The standards of TCB and RCB varied immensely when I did them both in the 1990s - although I did both at Westbury, TCB was a joke, and I was told by my CO that Chilwell and Edinburgh were even easier than Westbury.

It would consderably enhance the TA's credibility in the eyes of the Regular Army if they did unify RCB and TCB into a single "Army Commissions Board", which could select 'Army officers', rather than 'Army Officers' and 'TA Officers'. People could then choose to either do the year-long Commissioning Course, or the 3-week TA course. It's a similar argument to the introduction of MK1 and MK2: "If you want to wear the same rank then pass the same tests". Seems reasonable to me.

I could however see problems with, for example, the wet-behind-the-ears muppets that certainly my old OTC used to pump through TACC : if the threshold for TA commissions were raised, units accustomed to an 'attendance course', would start struggling for junior officers.



PS Bruised-ego-prevention-caveat...

Calypso said:
I'M NOT SLAGGING THE TA. IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE SAME CRITERIA APPLY TO BOTH REGULAR AND TA OFFICERS, YOU ARE PLAIN DAFT.

This is a fact - deal with it.

Now, to all those who's bottom lips are wobbling - dry your eyes and wipe your noses. Tap tap, move on!!
...like he said.
 
#17
DangerMouse said:
if the threshold for TA commissions were raised, units accustomed to an 'attendance course', would start struggling for junior officers
That's not how you described it when you passed it :)

msr
 
#18
There is only one Commissions Board now, at Westbury. TAPOs sit either the 4 day course with the regulars, or a 3 day weekend course, which only misses the opening race. Cat B and C POs sit the same board.

TA selection is more stringent, since all TAPOs should be trained soldiers, and TA Main Commissions Board ISTR has a higher failure rate.
 

DangerMouse

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#19
isleofwightrifles said:
There is only one Commissions Board now, at Westbury. TAPOs sit either the 4 day course with the regulars, or a 3 day weekend course, which only misses the opening race. Cat B and C POs sit the same board.
Cheers: that's interesting. Random questions, since you seem to be up-to-date with this stuff: Is the weekend selection attended by Regular Army candidates, too? Is there any distinction between Regular Army and TA applicants? Does "the board", whatever it's called, grant a single 'access all areas' pass to the the Commissioning Course and TACC? When did these changes take place?

Thanks in advance!
 
#20
Conversation with Westbury last week. One of my DEPOs booked on TAB but now wanting to go Reg. We asked for guidance and we're told that no point in him doing TAB as he would need to do the full RCB process regardless.

Having put 30+ DEPOs through TCB/RCB in last 18 months I would have to say an "access all areas" single board remains aspirational.

One of the issues is that the TCB still needs to be a stronger filter than RCB. (Personal Opinion - not official policy!)

Despite all the new Regional Training Centres and the now higher entry standards to the TACC we need to acknowledge that TA only spend 3 weeks at RMAS and therefore it is still possible for a numpty to slip through the net. Someone going Reg spends 10 months on their course so Westbury can afford to give the benefit of the doubt to a borderline case knowing that there is a further lengthy filter in place. (Personal supposition - not provable beyond all reasonable doubt :D )
 

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