Gents as the name of this forum is AVIATION and not 'Teeny Weeny Airways only, so wedge it yous Scroats' I see ar Men in Ganistan are short of everything but Guts and Determination. They are now going to receive an addtional Harrier. Thank you Gorden. I would like to ask the membership don't you think we'd have been better off if our men where being supplied by RAF C 17s instead of old has been Hercs with sometime in the years to cum A 400s doing the job. Wireing permitting. john PS I do know the crabs have 4 C 17s and one on order.