Busy day in ChopChop Square, Riyadh

[Whiskybreath]

Today

The Saudis aren't afraid of whipping the heads off a few foreigners who don't respect local customs. Having lived there for a few years, I grew to respect them for it (mind you, living in a Western compound thankfully isolates you from a lot of the local culture, especially if you enjoy a nip).

I just wish that we had the same courage of our convictions, though. We get flannelly, mendacious bastards like Blair and his obnoxious crew, Cameron and his piddle-stained gang and whoever it is comprising the LibDems instead.

 

[castlereagh]

Today

The Saudis aren't afraid of whipping the heads off a few foreigners who don't respect local customs. Having lived there for a few years, I grew to respect them for it (mind you, living in a Western compound thankfully isolates you from a lot of the local culture, especially if you enjoy a nip).

I just wish that we had the same courage of our convictions, though. We get flannelly, mendacious bastards like Blair and his obnoxious crew, Cameron and his piddle-stained gang and whoever it is comprising the LibDems instead.

'Respect the Saudis'? The Saudis, steadfast in their convictions? Sorry to say this but it shows that you lived in a compound. Really don't like to degenerate a whole people but since the the elite seems to be securely in their place, cannot think of a nicer place for a nuclear bomb or twenty to obliterate.

 

[Whiskybreath]

Absolutely, clean up the gene pool no end. No arguments here on that.

But they know what they want, and they don't let the hired help dictate their social policy. Great Britain now seems to be a place where every dreg from outer bongolia has more voice than me and mine, and more call on the national wallet too.

Or maybe I'm just reading the wrong papers.


(..."degenerate"...?)

 

[Biscuits_AB]

It says that 'During their detention, the 4 men had 'embraced' Islam'.

I'll bet they f*cking did.

 

[rickshaw-major]

The fact that the Saudis dish out the death penalty for armed robbery, drug dealing etc isn't a state secret. In Saudi, if you live by the gun you can expect to die by the sword - literally.

 

[Trevelez]

It says that 'During their detention, the 4 men had 'embraced' Islam'.

I'll bet they f*cking did.

Not to worry, live (or not) and learn

Islam

 

[RedcoatGreenjacket]

Quote, no one should be exempt from the law of the host country.
Why is it Blair cannot state this............solve a lot of probs overnight, Sharia law here, read the above.

 

[Biscuits_AB]

It says that 'During their detention, the 4 men had 'embraced' Islam'.

I'll bet they f*cking did.

Not to worry, live (or not) and learn

Islam

Soory, I lost interest after the third 'Lo!'. 'Lo'? That's a bit like us using 'Gadzooks'.

 

[LankyPullThrough]

Sorry to say this but it shows that you lived in a compound.

Having spent two years (...two LONG years!) on a Saudi compound, I didn't think Westerners could live anywhere else. I didn't really think they would want to either...

I was there 98-00, before it got hairy, but I still remember the regular US notices phrophesing doom. For Y2K, how many weeks supply of food were we advised to get in?

Best one for me was when the US residents of one compund suggested that they take all the accommodation in the centre and the Brits and Dutch occupy the apartments and villas next to the walls. Akin to getting the wagons in a circle in the American West I thought.

Jeddah had a chop chop square. Never went: prurient in the extreme to watch death as entertainment I thought. Was also told that Westerners were pushed to the front of the crowd (a) as a warning to them and (b) to make the departed leave this mortal coil with their last sight that of infidels.

 

[geo7863]

It says that 'During their detention, the 4 men had 'embraced' Islam'.

I'll bet they f*cking did.

Not to worry, live (or not) and learn

Islam

Soory, I lost interest after the third 'Lo!'. 'Lo'? That's a bit like us using 'Gadzooks'.

Gods teeth sire...theres nought wrong with the word gadzooks!!

 

[Nutstrangler]

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(..."degenerate"...?)

Denigrate!

 

[rockape34]

It says that 'During their detention, the 4 men had 'embraced' Islam'.

I'll bet they f*cking did.

Not to worry, live (or not) and learn

Islam

Does this mean they forfeit the 72 virgins?

I love not things that set. (Koran vi.77)

... jelly's out then ...

 

[RABC]

Hmm - not too sure about this. The Saudis are not renowned for the fairness of their legal system are they ??

 

[Whiskybreath]

So who wants fair?

 

[milsum]

Today

The Saudis aren't afraid of whipping the heads off a few foreigners who don't respect local customs. Having lived there for a few years, I grew to respect them for it (mind you, living in a Western compound thankfully isolates you from a lot of the local culture, especially if you enjoy a nip).

I just wish that we had the same courage of our convictions, though. We get flannelly, mendacious bastards like Blair and his obnoxious crew, Cameron and his piddle-stained gang and whoever it is comprising the LibDems instead.

If it's got so bad that we're unfavourably comparing our system of justice to that of the Saudi's, then we're really in a lot of trouble aren't we.

 

[Bat_Crab]

Today

The Saudis aren't afraid of whipping the heads off a few foreigners who don't respect local customs. Having lived there for a few years, I grew to respect them for it (mind you, living in a Western compound thankfully isolates you from a lot of the local culture, especially if you enjoy a nip).

I just wish that we had the same courage of our convictions, though. We get flannelly, mendacious bastards like Blair and his obnoxious crew, Cameron and his piddle-stained gang and whoever it is comprising the LibDems instead.

If it's got so bad that we're unfavourably comparing our system of justice to that of the Saudi's, then we're really in a lot of trouble aren't we.

They do a good line in prosecuting immigrants and looking after their own!

*sigh* Threads like this aren't the same since the demise of Warrior_Poet, I would have expected a fight to have broken out by now.

 

[rockape34]

[quote="Bat_Crab] *sigh* Threads like this aren't the same since the demise of Warrior_Poet, I would have expected a fight to have broken out by now. [/quote]
... cheer up there's always Sven, not quite the same, but ...

 

[LankyPullThrough]

Today

The Saudis aren't afraid of whipping the heads off a few foreigners who don't respect local customs. Having lived there for a few years, I grew to respect them for it (mind you, living in a Western compound thankfully isolates you from a lot of the local culture, especially if you enjoy a nip).

I just wish that we had the same courage of our convictions, though

Thinking about it, we don't even have the courage of their convictions thinking about Parry and McLauchlan, the two nurses convicted of murder there in 1997, and the efforts made to spare them Saudi wrath...

Does anyone know if any Westerners have actaully been beheaded or is just locals and expats from poorer countries who can't expect a commercial or diplomatic rescue package?

Thinking of the poor buggers locked up for supposedly bombing each other over boot-legging profits when, to my understanding, the Saudis just didn't want to admit to jihadist cells planting devices, I'm wary of Saudi due process although not put off by their punishments per se.

Perhaps we should take our examples from more enlightened countries? Singapore springs to mind...

 

[Whiskybreath]

Fiscal expediency usually wins out in KSA where Westerners (and BAe or Lockheed-connected Westerners, at that) are concerned. Nowt wrong with that; ask Tony.

Has to be said, though, that the Saudi legal system is nothing like ours. Every police district and every court is like a little fiefdom having little to do with any other, and headed by a sort of robber baron, who owes allegiance to one Prince or other (although Nayef is the Big Cheese). This tends to make the sort of cases you quote fairly random in the way they're treated internally, but political in the way they're resolved, LPT.

Singapore. Now there's sensible.

 

[castlereagh]

Absolutely, clean up the gene pool no end. No arguments here on that.

But they know what they want, and they don't let the hired help dictate their social policy. Great Britain now seems to be a place where every dreg from outer bongolia has more voice than me and mine, and more call on the national wallet too.

Or maybe I'm just reading the wrong papers.


(..."degenerate"...?)

You know that is what some Saudis say about the influence of the west! Some guy called Osama even kicked up a storm about it! Know many a story about how certain westerners have committed 'acts' which normally would have seen them facing a little tête - à - tête with the Mutaween.

(..."degenerate"...?)

A big Freudian slip there, I think I revealed there my true feelings about the people of Saudi Arabia.