Burning fat vs Building Muscle?

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jimuk80

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REMEbrat said:
ironeye said:
I'm in the same situation. I need to loose 7kgs before I join. I'm running every other day. Bought a set of weights so pumpin them every night. Obviusly eating well is essential.

Good luck!
Word of advice, muscle weighs more than fat so don't be too suprised if after a couple of months of running and pumpin iron you haven't lost any weight at all!
Okay, i thought this might be a relevant thread.

Im overweight with a BMI of 94.7. Ive been training hard with bodyweight / circuit training as advised by the Royal Marines on: http://www.royal-marines.mod.uk/

What im unsure about is the fact that im getting stronger (heaves, push-ups, sit-ups, 1.5) but my weight hasnt changed.

Its been 2 months of training for me now and im getting stronger and faster every day. but my weight isnt dropping.

Im dont think im holding as much fat as before but i'd just like to know if anypne has experienced the same?
 
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94.7 WHAAAA?! With that sort of BMI, you must already be sucking pig c@ck in hell, there, PizzaTi ts.Nice try, though
 
#4
Of course. As has been said, as you build muscle you will get heavier unless this is offset by losing fat. It's quite hard to do both though unless you're quite a fat bastard anyway. The mirror; not the scales should be telling you how you're progressing.
 
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Flagrantviolator said:
94.7 WHAAAA?! With that sort of BMI, you must already be sucking pig c@ck in hell, there, PizzaTi ts.Nice try, though
Whoops, 27.4. My apologies, it was late ok.
 
#6
Are you sure that BMI is correct? A BMI greater than 30 is obese, over 40 is morbidly obese.

Edit. Now that you've corrected. I'd go along with what Fallschirmjager said. At the size you are a mirror is more of an indication than looking at BMI.
 
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Fallschirmjager said:
Of course. As has been said, as you build muscle you will get heavier unless this is offset by losing fat. It's quite hard to do both though unless you're quite a fat bastard anyway. The mirror; not the scales should be telling you how you're progressing.
Agree with this.
 
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jimuk80 said:
Flagrantviolator said:
94.7 WHAAAA?! With that sort of BMI, you must already be sucking pig c@ck in hell, there, PizzaTi ts.Nice try, though
Whoops, 27.4. My apologies, it was late ok.
Does this present a problem though? My BMI makes me overweight but its good overweight. They have a threshold based around the size of your frame and you will probably won't have an issue providing you make the grade with your strength and fitness.

BMI = joke.
 
#9
BMI is only a general measurement based on the height/weight ratio dreamed up in the mid 1800s. It is not an indication of health or fitness. At my fittest I would have been classed overweight despite my body fat being only 10%.
 
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you have to be in the normal category to get in.
 
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1ManRiot said:
jimuk80 said:
Flagrantviolator said:
94.7 WHAAAA?! With that sort of BMI, you must already be sucking pig c@ck in hell, there, PizzaTi ts.Nice try, though
Whoops, 27.4. My apologies, it was late ok.
Does this present a problem though? My BMI makes me overweight but its good overweight. They have a threshold based around the size of your frame and you will probably won't have an issue providing you make the grade with your strength and fitness.

BMI = joke.
Thats what i thought, when i started training i was worrying about my weight and dieting but then found myself worrying about fuelling my training. Ive binned the lot now and try to eat healthily when im hungry. Im hoping that eventually all of the bodyweight stuff im doing will eventually become more of a cardio session as my numbers improve.

I might get a BFP test done just to be sure, does anyone know where you can get this done cheap / free?
 
#12
my bmi is 26.5 mate ive lost 2 stone since i started training but i have put half a stone back on as i have been doing alot of weight training. as i said above my afco said to get in you have to come under the "normal" category but i recon as long as your not in the obese category it should be alright.

dont know if that makes sense?
 
#14
I bought a set of scales from argos that claim to measure body fat percentage, water percentage, and weight, by passing an electric current through your feet and measuring the resistance.

I am not convinced it is accurate, but on the assumption that it is at least consistently inaccurate, I have been using it every few days to keep a check on things.

In the last month my fat percentage has gone from about 18.5% to 14.7%, and my weight has dropped by about half a stone. My belts had to tighten a couple of notches too, which is promising.
 
#15
As 1Man says, BMI is as useful as a chocolate tea pot. At my current size, and 12.5% fat, I am morbidly obese...which is in fact b******s! Get yourself some decent BF% scales, failing that some fat calipers which are pretty useful. These measure skin folds at strategic places around the body and give a good indication of fat levels.
Good luck and keep training!
Wannabe
 
#16
I agree that BMI is a very blunt tool but I have found it does have one use:

I always advise people who are taking up running that they really should get their BMI down as close to the 'normal' level as they can if they are to realise anything like their potential and to help safeguard against potential cumulative effects.

For example I dont believe that anyone should be running 30+ miles a week if their BMI is 30+!
 
#17
BMI is a pile of steaming dog turd. According to that Im morbidly obese. I started doing a LOT of weight training, mainly because I was sick of being a 6'5" lump of lard.

I dont weigh myself often but last time I did I had put on 5kgs, however looking in the mirror my body shape had changed drastically and the waste on my trousers was way looser than before.

As has been mentioned, muscle is heavier than fat, just look in the mirror, you'll see how well you are doing by that.
 
#18
bulldoze said:
I agree that BMI is a very blunt tool but I have found it does have one use:

I always advise people who are taking up running that they really should get their BMI down as close to the 'normal' level as they can if they are to realise anything like their potential and to help safeguard against potential cumulative effects.

Potential for what? What about those who combine weight training with cardiovascular exercise? Not everybody wants to run 10 miles under 60 mins or do a BFT in under 8 mins!

For example I dont believe that anyone should be running 30+ miles a week if their BMI is 30+!

Why shouldn't they? With the correct footwear, terrain and training plan; weight isn't so much of an issue in regards to injury.
 
#19
I meant people who were trying to get good at running not just go out for a daily plod.

If it is muscle or fat someone who has a BMI of 30 is gonna be Slooowwww!
 

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