bullying in the infantry

#1
hello guys and girls, i am about to start the application process for the infantry but after reading reports about bullying in the army (especially under 18's) and not just taking the p*** but really disgusting acts of bullying and violence and reading about this has made me think, is it really worth it and wether i want to join the army. So i was just wondering how often you have seen bullying in the infantry and what gets done about it. thanks for any replies, i just want to put my mind at rest about this.
 
#2
cdt_parker said:
hello guys and girls, i am about to start the application process for the infantry but after reading reports about bullying in the army (especially under 18's) and not just taking the p*** but really disgusting acts of bullying and violence and reading about this has made me think, is it really worth it and wether i want to join the army. So i was just wondering how often you have seen bullying in the infantry and what gets done about it. thanks for any replies, i just want to put my mind at rest about this.
All the time mate, errr journo.

Fcuk off and research your story in Afghanistan, preferably in Sangin whilst dressed as a British soldier.

Get your news by doing the footwork you spineless civvie cnut.
 

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cdt_parker said:
hello guys and girls, i am about to start the application process for the infantry but after reading reports about bullying in the army (especially under 18's) and not just taking the p*** but really disgusting acts of bullying and violence and reading about this has made me think, is it really worth it and wether i want to join the army. So i was just wondering how often you have seen bullying in the infantry and what gets done about it. thanks for any replies, i just want to put my mind at rest about this.
While I understand your concerns, I have to question whether Inf is for you. I went through many 'experiences' which today would be classed as bullying - in my day (mid '60s) it was a case of Get On With It. Not saying that that was the correct attitude but if you can't take 'bullying' will you be able to stand real operational pressure? If you are a just a normal guy (and by that I don't mean anything sexual) then you should have no problems and will be able to take on board anything that comes your way.

The army are not trying to stop people getting through training but to ensure that those that do are effective soldiers. Whatever happens to you will have happened to hundreds of your predecessors, including those training you!

Go for it and enjoy it. Your only regret in later life will be if you did not try.
 
#6
Indeed - character building.

Cdt_parker : would you call being hit in the street or shouted at in the street by an angry individual (Iraqi / Afghan / whatever) being bullied?
 
#9
I believe that bullying is now, regrettably, a thing of the past. However, the good old infantry tradition of **** defloration with a studded baseball bat is still going strong, last I heard. Some units still issue them to JNCOs for just this purpose...
 
#11
It sorts the men from the boys, of course thats not how it is sold to joe public who only ever get to hear about the extremes or a version of events from Pte Softasshite.

The character building aspect of it is what sorts us out from civvies!

Turned me into the man I am today ;)
 
#13
I never worked out how bullying (as in outright bullying, not the charactor building stuff) as compared to operational pressure.

Bullying is much more a personal thing. An individual is personally targeted with bullying - individuals in groups nearly always respond better to stress if its at the group than they do if singled out.
 
#14
Having investigated several allegations of bullying while I was in you would be suprised at what some people think of as bullying.

In the vast majority of cases I found that no bullying had occured but that some people had a far from realistic attitude to the difference between being treated in a robust manner and being bullied.
 
#15
Its very rarely bullying, it's banter!! Which you are going to have when you have a group of blokes whether it be in the Army or in Civvie Strasse!!
 
#16
Dont worry the people on this forum are trying to lull you into a false sense of security....

Before you know it you'll be naked with roll mats on your arms being kicked in the face by corporal for having a small pr1ck.

Armed
 
#17
I was bullied twice as a young boy soldier just off my mothers tit,
at that time I had never raised my voice to anyone, so you can say, that I was a real weed.
When someone tried a third time to bully me, it was about ten months into my training. I whacked the bully across the face with my S.L.R. breaking the butt over his head,
I can tell you no one has every bullied me again since that night in the barrack room forty years ago, it did me some good, if you cant take it get out, get back on to your mothers tit.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
#18
shame Deepcut is closing really, cdt parker would love it.
 
#19
AuldYin said it OK - If you sign up for a heavy-duty mob like the infantry, then you've gotta cop some heavy-duty treatment. Forget about getting a good night's sleep if you're a rookie. Once you've shown you can take it - and you've taken part in a few ops with the old sweats - they leave you alone: you're one of the lads. Proving you're one of the team is the hard part - nobody's gonna take you at face-value. Once you've proven yourself, you've got mates for life. And they'll put their lives on the line for you, and you'll do the same for them. Hope that clears up a few civvy tree-hugger misconceptions. Cheers.
Cliff.
 
#20
'Lamp swinging alert'... When I joined, our QM (t) was a genuinely scary bloke: one of those guys who was actually relaxed and pleasant, because nobody dared screw with him.

After a while, when he'd decided I wasn't a total knob, we had a few beers together.

He told me of his experience with bullying: he'd joined as a national serviceman, and had been beaten up regularly for a week or so by a big twat who thought it was clever... He finally decided it had to stop, so the next night he waited until about 3 am, and, with an accomplice, snuck up on the guy, armed with a fire bucket and a pick helve (remember them? :wink: )

The bucket was rammed sharply, firmly, and in a soldierly manner, over the guy's head as he lay in his pit, and then the pick helve was used to play a couple of tunes on the bucket... :) He wasn't bullied again after that. Top bloke.

Reminds me: wasn't there a gunner subaltern who was 'psychologically damaged' by having a rose pushed up his backside??
 

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