BSc(Hons) Armed Forces - Worthwile?

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  1. Hey guys not sure if this thread is in the right place but i was hoping you could help.

    I'm currently in my first year of college with plans to join either the Army or Navy as an officer. I don't really have any particular passion for any of my courses that would make me want to study for a degree in one which is why i like the idea of the armed forces degree. However from what i have read about it it seems to be a bit of a recruitment ploy for the TA/Reserves. As such i was wondering if anyone here could give me some insight as to whether the course will be recognised as a respectable qualification by HM forces.

    Cheers, Elliot.
     
  2. Why don't you look into something like 'War Studies' or chose a History course based around plenty of military-ish modules? If you want to do the TA/RNR then do that alongside your degree. I, like many on here, are rather synical, especially when it comes down to a degree like this, but then I'm not an expert on the matter.
     
  3. Scroll down a bit there are a number of recent threads on A levels and degrees.

    Quick answer though: Just do whatever you enjoy, the army at least won't be that interested in your a levels or your degree, all they want to know is if you have them or not. So do not think because war is in the title of your degree you are guaranteed a place. Before you ask, degrees are not absolutely necessary but the majority of people at RMAS do have them.

    Be careful though, you say you don't like your subjects, so why did you take them? Also don't go and fail them all because you don't like them, since there will be lots of things you will have to do in a military career you do not like, but it does not mean you can slack off.

    Good luck though, and don't hesitate to go see your local ACA, there were several people at my briefing who were 17 and did fine, you don't have to wait till you have finished your degree to start an application.
     
  4. Hi there Sentinel thanks for the reply.I'd just like to say your putting words in my mouth there. I do enjoy my subjects but i dont think i enjoy them enough to pay thousands of pounds and spend 3 years studying a particular one of them. I understand that there will be alot of things i won't enjoy doing but i'm hard working enough to do them all the same, however i believe you shouldn't willingly enter into something you won't enjoy if you don't have to.
     
  5. Your degree subject is irrelevant. Study something you really enjoy. An officer working with me has a degree in fine art and art history. Bugger all use, but he's still an excellent officer.

    I am currently doing a Masters in War Studies and there will be opportunities to do the same in your military career, although probably self funded as the Modular Masters Programme (MMP) has now been cut as a cost saving measure!
     
  6. That's very reassuring halliumikid thanks. I just don't want to pitch up some day and get sneered at. (Childish i know) :)
     
  7. What about Military history? I knew a lot of NCO's from my unit that had a good working knowledge in that area and sometimes it came in handy to say the least, but also if you do serve and leave, it could sound a bit more academic than war studies.
     
  8. Thanks for all the tips. just out of curiosity are there any degrees that might be specifically recommended for someone with a mix of A levels. (Politics,Psycology,Geography/Theology)
     
  9. Fair dues you did not say that. I must admit I would be thinking twice myself if I had to pay what kids pay now, but I would still stress don't take something just because it had "war" in the title, also don't let your subjects constrain you, plenty of courses you can do with not taking the equivalent A level, plus many you will never have heard of.
     
  10. I didn't know there was a BSC in Armed Forces Studies.

    Knowing how the military sometimes works, it wouldn't suprrise me if that particular degree was valued less than any other, as its title seems to suggest the recipient is an expert on the armed forces!

    I did maths, physics and geography and went for an engineering degree - because it looked interesting and challenging. I struggled on the maths bit (as I had a a-level), but I didn't want to do a maths degree or any other of my A-level subjects as a degree.

    Think of your projected grades (or what you feel capable of). Think of where you would like to be. Look what courses those universities offer and then think about which of those course look interesting to you, based on the fact you will have to study it for 3 years at a considerable cost.

    Another bonus to my Engineering course was its modular composition. While I ended up with Aero Eng, it was tied to 3 other Eng courses (Electrical, Manufacturing and Info Sys I think) and you could at certain points, choose your subjects to shape your final qualification. I saw this as a bonus, as I had a broad range of subjects to choose from, with a core of subjects to get me my Aero Eng degree.
     
  11. Whilst we're on this topic, I'm currently doing HND civil eng which is 2 years at uni. Just wondering if joined would I be classed as a grad or non-grad?
    thanks
     
  12. You would be classed as a non-Grad, I'm afraid. You need a BA/BSc or higher in order to be paid as and get the extra seniority afforded to a graduate. I don't know whether you could (or even would want to) do an extra year to convert your HND into a degree. Likewise, I know a (very) few people who have completed 1 year masters degree courses, without holding a first degree; I have no idea how they would be considered.
     
  13. Cheers, I could do the degree but it would be an extra two years, will just see how things are later in the year (ie whether or not i do the degree).
     
  14. PPE (Politics, Philosophy & Economics), Psychology & Philosophy, Philosophy, Law, basically any social science or humanities subjects...the world is you oyster.
     
  15. Glad to see you are doing a worthwhile qualification which will actually hold some weight in civvy street and is relevent. I assume that as you are studying Civil Engineering you are joining the Royal Engineers. I would definatly recommend doing the extra couple of years (there are 4 year MEng courses out there as well as the 3 year BEng courses) as later on in your career you could specialise in civil engineering. This would involve the Army putting you through your masters, spending 18 months on civilian attachment within industry (with the USA and Australia placements available every year) and the Army preparing you for your CEng interviews.

    If you've any questions about this route give me a shout and I will give you more details.