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Brown pledges £150m to detect bombs in Afghanistan

#1
So let me understand this correctly;

£150m of reallocated funds for Afg IED detection over 3 years.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6955181.ece

"Most of the £150 million will come from a reallocation of resources within the Defence Ministry, although the money to be spent on the new devices will be drawn from the emergency contingency reserve."

£700m for someone elses trees

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6924038.ece

"Britain should contribute £700 million over five years."

£1.5bn for corrupt 3rd world nations to save the planet.

Good to know that the government prioritises funding to save the lives of service personnel.

If we redeployed from Afg to the rainforest I'm sure we'd secure better funding.
 
#2
You know, that bit of shirt showing between the body armour and his belt buckle would make a lovely aiming mark. :twisted:
Then maybe he would know the meaning of pain.

Gadge
 
#3
£10 million to purchase 400 new remote cointrolled vehicles to detect mines (I assume they mean IEDs)

Is this new money or the money already committed to buying a replacement for the current range of wheelbarrow? As the last fleet of far fewer than 400 cost in region of £15million, more than 10 years ago, we are hardly going to be buying state of the art equipment are we?

More smoke and mirrors I suspect.
 
#7
From The Timesonline:


Jack Reacher wrote:
Waste of time Brown wearing protection, the Taliban know he will do more damage to the UK and the Britsh army alive!


Accurate observation there Mr. Reacher.

Brown's 'announcement' means nothing. He lies like the proverbial NAAFI fork and is as clueless as ever he was before Messrs Mandelson and Campbell returned to the fold in an attempt to salvage the 'sainted' Tony's legacy.
 
#8
What's he going to do open up another tin of ATO's. I hope the RLC manning desk has been told to conjure up more ATO's in a hurry, not sure how the 6+yrs of training is going to be fastracked though...
 
#10
Herrumph said:
£10 million to purchase 400 new remote cointrolled vehicles to detect mines (I assume they mean IEDs)

Is this new money or the money already committed to buying a replacement for the current range of wheelbarrow? As the last fleet of far fewer than 400 cost in region of £15million, more than 10 years ago, we are hardly going to be buying state of the art equipment are we?

More smoke and mirrors I suspect.
But the article refers to handheld devices:

The pledge of new money tomorrow will cover the cost of 400 high-tech handheld devices which help soldiers to find improvised explosive devices. It will also allow the Army to set up a new analysis centre in Britain to scrutinise intelligence from the combat zone
 
#11
I quote from BBC News website

"400 high tech robot mine-detectors"

As the BBC is the official mouthpiece of the labour party, I stand by my claim - meaningless spin and mis-direction
 
#12
Gracchus said:
Herrumph said:
£10 million to purchase 400 new remote cointrolled vehicles to detect mines (I assume they mean IEDs)

Is this new money or the money already committed to buying a replacement for the current range of wheelbarrow? As the last fleet of far fewer than 400 cost in region of £15million, more than 10 years ago, we are hardly going to be buying state of the art equipment are we?

More smoke and mirrors I suspect.
But the article refers to handheld devices:

The pledge of new money tomorrow will cover the cost of 400 high-tech handheld devices which help soldiers to find improvised explosive devices. It will also allow the Army to set up a new analysis centre in Britain to scrutinise intelligence from the combat zone
What do they mean, sticks??
 
#13
#14
Herrumph said:
I quote from BBC News website

"400 high tech robot mine-detectors"

As the BBC is the official mouthpiece of the labour party, I stand by my claim - meaningless spin and mis-direction
How about 600 odd MPs to do route clearances, that way we get to rid ourselves of them, we remove them from the payroll, and they get to do their bit for the good and benefit of the Afghan people.

Everyones a winner
 
#15
Would this reallocation of resources be in any way linked to the PR10 announcement allegedly due this week, that will doubtless utterly shaft all HM Forces procurement outside of HERRICK issues? Or am I just being very cyncial?

I love the way this money keeps "appearing" - its not new, its just our money being taken elsewhere due to Browns refusal to fund defence properly to do its job.
 
#16
jim30 said:
Would this reallocation of resources be in any way linked to the PR10 announcement allegedly due this week, that will doubtless utterly shaft all HM Forces procurement outside of HERRICK issues? Or am I just being very cyncial?

I love the way this money keeps "appearing" - its not new, its just our money being taken elsewhere due to Browns refusal to fund defence properly to do its job.
So true Jim. The financial control of this administration is making your average tin-pot dictatorship look like some shining example of prudence. Similarstunts being pulled in the NHS, Education, etc.
 
#17
Reminds me of when liarbor first came to power:

Out of nowhere Broon suddenly found about £150 mil (exact figures escapes me) to inject into the NHS. What they didn’t announce was where the money came from. The money was the KRH’s C2 tanks!

As a result Vickers had to wait a couple more years for the money and the KRH for there new tanks.

This isn’t new money, it’s for kit already in the procurement system and the Defence EOD Operator Programme (but that’s another joke).

Headline grabbing bastards.
 
#18
And when the axe falls on projects tomorrow, the government will say " but it is all to help the CIED response" , in much the same way as debate on kit shortages has been stifled by the caveats placed on the increase in manpower for Afghanistan (ie "you will get your 500 men when you publically agree we have provided you with all the kit you need")

What is the betting that major exercises will be cut, overseas bases to be chopped, UK RAF Stations to close, married qtr and single accommodation upgrades to be delayed, possibly another overhaul of the pension scheme. The sums will not add up though and the improvements will have been planned beforehand
 
#20
stinker said:
Gracchus said:
But the article refers to handheld devices:

The pledge of new money tomorrow will cover the cost of 400 high-tech handheld devices which help soldiers to find improvised explosive devices. It will also allow the Army to set up a new analysis centre in Britain to scrutinise intelligence from the combat zone
Hopefully not these ones;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...85million-useless-bomb-detectors-Britain.html
I like the defence put forward by the company that makes them:

He told The Times: 'We have been dealing with doubters for ten years. One of the problems we have is sthat the machine does look a little primitive. We are working on a new model that has flashing lights.'
Oooooo flashing lights!! :omg:
 

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