Brown jobs slagging off the mob

I have just decided to put a couple of posts up after mooching around for a while.

The slagging my old mob gets from some brown jobs on here is quite amusing, they all seem to think the every member of the RAF is in some strange way either inferior in terms of physical fitness or is some sort of wimp that would fold if they got a bit wet. These self promoted “nails” ( first time I have come across that one ) or hard men I suppose they mean, are really a star turn, and the old saying empty vessels make the most noise has come to mind more than once since I chanced across these boards.

Maybe the post I have put up on the rock ape pre para selection thread, and the two I intend putting up here may give some brown jobs with a brain pause before they start beating their gums and mouthing off again next time about a service that they are plainly ignorant of.

Here is some information of my old branch of the RAF.

Not to many steely eyed killers amongst the troops but we would have walked any brown job with less than three legs into the deck any day of the week and not paused to stub out our fags.

Also the incident report of the call out to Kinabalu in Borneo to get some pongo’s out of the shit they were in was not the first time or the last that RAF MR had been called out to rescue British Army personnel .

Anyway hope those that bother to read these posts interesting and maybe make them just a little less inclined to repeat the bullshit about the RAF that seems to be the norm on here from some who I fear may have done a lot less that they crack on.


RAF Mountain Rescue Service (MRS) has its origins back in the Second World War. An RAF medical officer, Flight Lieutenant George Graham, is credited with creating the first organized team at RAF Llandwrog in North Wales in 1943 for which he was awarded the MBE; he was then posted to India and helped rescue a Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) navigator whose aircraft crashed during supply dropping to Wingate’s Chindits in Burma, the rescue involved Grahams 1st and only parachute jump behind enemy lines, followed by a long carryout into China. He was awarded the DSO for his part in the rescue.

More than sixty years later that same will and determination to save lives still exists. Gales, rain, snow storms or freezing temperatures do not stop the Mountain Rescue Teams (MRT) getting to those regions where others fear to tread, and rescuing those in trouble. Now part of the Search and Rescue Force, the MRS will go anywhere, anytime, regardless of the weather - hence the motto 'Whensoever'.

All RAF MRT members are volunteers. For reasons lost to history, RAF MRT team members are known as "M.R. troops" or just "troops." Traditionally, team membership is reserved for enlisted men although officers may serve as team members or as Officers In Charge (OIC), this is not at all the same thing as being the team leader. That position is reserved for a senior NCO, generally a Flight Sergeant. For some, service on a team is a primary duty - these full time members are know as permanent staff - "permies" in troop speak. For others, it is a part-time activity for which they are granted relief from other normal secondary duties, such as guard duty.

Most training is done "on the hill", the term for mountaineering training days. ("The hill" is the term used even for very high mountains!) Classroom training included first aid training, radio procedure and navigation theory. Only a minority pass the three-week trial period required to join. Once accepted, new troops are considered "novices." Novices then embark on approximately one years extensive training, learning skills required, both theory and practical. A troop will then take a "badge test", normally on a training weekend, after the first year.

The badge test covers all aspect of hill safety, navigation, rock climbing, rescue techniques, first aid, radio procedure and area knowledge. Once passed the troop is then considered to be trained - he will then become a party leader and is considered competent to take a small group of team members - normally 3 ~ 4 safely on to the hill and to take a more active role on rescues. This allows the wearing of the mountain rescue badge on the right fore-sleeve of dress uniform, one of only two special service badges recognized for RAF enlisted men , the other being the badge of a qualified marksman.

Walking, mountain navigation, high-angle rescue techniques, rock climbing, first aid and winter mountaineering are the primary training activities, which are carried out in all weathers. A minority of troops practice fell running, a traditional country sport in northern England, and excellent training. A regular troop can expect to spend upwards of a hundred days a year on the hill, this extensive training makes the most seasoned RAFMRS members some of the fittest mountaineers in the world.

In the early days of the service many troops undertook parachute training, to allow them to be dropped into remote areas as a fast reaction for search, rescue and medical support. Many expeditions have been mounted by RAFMRS, some serving troops and ex-troops have participated in other organizations' expeditions. Expeditions areas have included, but not limited to: - Alaska, USA Rockies, Patagonia, Greenland, The Arctic, Columbia, Borneo, Iran, Turkey, Morocco, Himalayas - MR troops have climbed Mt Everest!, European Alps, Norway, New Zealand, South Georgia and Antarctica, in fact RAFMRS have climbed all over the world!

Each year for several decades, the service has run separate summer and winter mountaineering courses. The focus is on training lead climbers and for the most up-to-date specialised rescue techniques, the newly learned techniques are then passed onto members who did not attend these specialised courses. A special course is held when needed every few years to train and select new MR team leaders. Any fully trained troop can apply to - most are normally "hand picked" - attend the MR Team Leaders Course. On successful completion of this course, a troop will then be posted to become a full time Deputy Team Leader at one of the MRT's, to further learn how to run a successful team. Eventually he will fully take over a MRT.


Incident report Call out for British army soldies Mt Kinabalu Borneo.

http://www.rafmountainrescue.com/new_site/RAFMRA/team_diaries/stathan/1994/incident_form_a/Report%20A%20(MRS-1-94)(Mount%20Kinabalu).pdf

 

Oooooh!! Get her

I don't doubt that there are individuals in the RAF who can hack a decent jog, just as I am quite sure there are some quite nice people in the BNP!

However, RAF as a 'Force' are not a force to be reckoned with! Civvies in uniform is how they come across and how they act.

 

Nice post Kilo42!


You tell em mate!

 

Hang on there sport, you'll get a bite soon...

 

I think Madam that you have got your knickers in a twist. Most of us 'brown jobs', when slagging the RAF are quite often referring to Aircrew & RAF Regt. I know that a great many other RAF trades do sterling work, Firemen for example for wearing those stinking suits in Iraq and Afghan providing crash rescue coverage for us real aviators. Don't take it too personally, your mum doesn't. x

 

Well Dont get too excited cos you will just be disapointed

 

Fkukin ell, do you think she's found her handbag yet.

Only squaddies seem to understand squaddie humor, everyone else just gets their tits in a flutter.

 

Dont worry china I am taking nothing personal at all, as I said watching you lot dish it out is great fun.

BTW I served in Bruni with teeny weeni air lines in the sixties good lads I thought, but vulgar and a bit rough.

 

What, with your intelligence? No, I got the gist of things when you practically copy and pasted from Wikipedia.

Perhaps some gucci-looking Oakley gloves can protect your knuckles from dragging along the ground you failed Rock Ape.

 

Facepalm indeed...

 

O.K. then, Play him off, keyboard cat.

 

Anyone want to pull up a sandbag alongside me?
I've got beer and popcorn... Bring some peanuts and some of those cheesy wotsits or monster munch.

 

Deleted10 thingy rule