Brown Down Battery, Gosport

#1
I was recently on exercise in Brown Down training area and I whilst there got the chance to look at the battery fort there. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. I looked on google and am fairly certain it's of victorian vintage, I believe it forms part of the palmerston forts in that area. I guessed, but don't know for sure, that it might have held montcrieff guns. Anyway if anyone knows about it that would solve some of my curiosity, thanks in advance.
 
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Cheers, I just got a load of stuff about some R&B artist beating up his girlfriend, didn't think to put browndown, instead I put 'brown down', think I was having a 'special' moment.
 
#4
I was recently on exercise in Brown Down training area and I whilst there got the chance to look at the battery fort there. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. I looked on google and am fairly certain it's of victorian vintage, I believe it forms part of the palmerston forts in that area. I guessed, but don't know for sure, that it might have held montcrieff guns. Anyway if anyone knows about it that would solve some of my curiosity, thanks in advance.
I think that the only remaining "moncrief gun" pits are on the Island of Flat Holm in the Bristol Channel, unfortuneatly the mounts have gone but some of the guns are still there. There are two more filled in pits at Lavernock near Penarth and they can be seen on Google maps in the caravan site at the location. but if you want to see the real thing a trip to Flat Holm is called for.
 

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#5
Er.....actually Fort Gilkicker, which is at the far (Eastern) end of Stokes Bay from the aforementioned Brown Down Battery has a very good information board showing the guns being installed . Assuming that the Moncrieff gun pits were put in place for the 'disappearing mount' installation, then they can also be clearly viewed up at Fort Nelson, which is an enclave of the National Armouries down here on the South Coast riviera.

Brown Down had a musketry range' in the 1900's. The ' Brown Down Plate' was prominently displayed in 2SL's HQ when I was there in the 1990s.

As Countrylad surmises, all part of the Palmerston defences for Portsmouth which run up from the coast from Fort Blockhouse, through Fort Grange, (which is now inside the wire at SULTAN),Fort Brockhurst, Fort Rowner to Portsdown Hill (Fort Nelson - Fort Southwick - Fort Widley ) and down to the East of Portsmouth at Fort Cumberland.

Some interesting details of the Portsmouth defence system can be found at LINKY
 
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Words of advice:

Don't get lost around Gilkicker and stray behind barbed wire; you may end up in 'gitmo for the rest of your natural.....
 

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#9
Those militant National Trust members are dam right mean............
 

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#10
Didn't they use Browndown Camp for Lads' Army for a few years?
 

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Alfred the Great

I think you mean Fort Monkton.....or are you referring to the Stokes Bay Golf Club Patriotic Peoples Liberation Army ?

( yes sir, that is indeed a black helicopter well spotted you.........move along there please, nothing to see.....)
 
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Point of order - it's Browndown...pronounced Braindain in Gosport.
 
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Alfred the Great

I think you mean Fort Monkton.....or are you referring to the Stokes Bay Golf Club Patriotic Peoples Liberation Army ?

( yes sir, that is indeed a black helicopter well spotted you.........move along there please, nothing to see.....)
It was me, I did it, please stop the waterboarding. And which random Eastern European runway is that out of interest.....
 
#18
There was a live firing range there in the sixties as well as a small railway to get the ammo from the stores to the butts. The "wagons" were operated by two drivers cranking a handle (like in the old silent movies). It was great fun; I did this as a CCF cadet. The range had to be closed down due to "near misses" on passing sailing craft.
I took part in an exercise in the late eighties which involved a seaborne assault from the Solent. It was a highly amusing exercise when the attackers arrived as a night angling competition was being held on the assault beach. Feckin hilarious. some of the anglers were bloody terrified when the pyrotechnics started and the GPMGs opened up.
 

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There was a live firing range there in the sixties as well as a small railway to get the ammo from the stores to the butts. The "wagons" were operated by two drivers cranking a handle (like in the old silent movies). It was great fun; I did this as a CCF cadet. The range had to be closed down due to "near misses" on passing sailing craft.
I took part in an exercise in the late eighties which involved a seaborne assault from the Solent. It was a highly amusing exercise when the attackers arrived as a night angling competition was being held on the assault beach. Feckin hilarious. some of the anglers were bloody terrified when the pyrotechnics started and the GPMGs opened up.
In the spirit of the late Tropper......Zat so ? Pah.....on my last day at sea ( reaches wildly for swinging lamp) I took a Landy off the beach at Browndown onto Her Majesty's trusty LCVP, roared round the bay and put it back ashore again.....Frank the mover who was driving had to stay in the vehicle whilst we were underway - less than impressed at his prospects if we had taken a goffer over the front end ;-)....ah, glory days....


We also did a seaborne assault on the Izzel of Widget in the dark....which was rather spoilt by the skipper putting the RCL deck lamps on when we were 50 yards offshore at two in the morning for his final approach.....oh how we sniggered when the (female) patrol medic slipped off a rock going ashore.....she didn't go in though....
 
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In the spirit of the late Tropper......Zat so ? Pah.....on my last day at sea ( reaches wildly for swinging lamp) I took a Landy off the beach at Browndown onto Her Majesty's trusty LCVP, roared round the bay and put it back ashore again.....Frank the mover who was driving had to stay in the vehicle whilst we were underway - less than impressed at his prospects if we had taken a goffer over the front end ;-)....ah, glory days....



We also did a seaborne assault on the Izzel of Widget in the dark....which was rather spoilt by the skipper putting the RCL deck lamps on when we were 50 yards offshore at two in the morning for his final approach.....oh how we sniggered when the (female) patrol medic slipped off a rock going ashore.....she didn't go in though....
LCVP, pah!
SRN 6 from Browndown [200 (Trials) Sqn RCT] trip round the bay. I was in the ACF at Bay House School (just along the lane from the camp) at the time. We used the training area often and the .22 range weekly. Learned the value of keeping a Lee-Enfield No4 tight into the shoulder!
Don't the shadows move a lot in this lamplight?
 

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