Brits soft in Basra article

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by random-nothings, Feb 2, 2005.

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  1. This is an old argument you are all aware of that came from the spams prior to black watch deployment to the triangle, but here is a good article supporting the Brit way of doing things from a Yank who seems to know quite a lot. It's from the correspondent gary brecher (known as "war nerd") whose articles can be found at :

    He has a few interesting things to say about abu gharib too if you can find the article.

  2. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Good article, well found.

    And, of course, there is no weakness when it comes to dealing it out - as in Amarah last summer. What was done there, and not in Najaf/Karbala/etc., was that the Brits kept all the Press away. Massive fights, high 'bodycount' (horrible term for dead humans), and very little adverse press.
  3. msr

    msr LE

  4. It's true thatwe do have a "soft" approach but agree with the Al Amarah comment. I was there and it was rough. However, when it was needed we can rise to the challenge and won some good battles. No press interest because it wasn't Basra and appart from a few papers, we got little coverage.

    I sometimes think, disloyal to the Government though it is), that the reason the fighting in Al Amarah in Aug recieved so little coverage was because Mr Blair had to keep it quiet.

    How can tis demi-god of world politics defend the swift war and say that Iraq was on the road to freedom when we were still fighting a war using all weapons systems bar MILAN, (this includes some useful assistance from the US fly boys).

    Lets keep being friendly and softly, softly but always smile and talk to the locals with a cocked weapon.
  5. Walk softly and carry a big stick, as it where.

  6. War Nerd gets some stick from his compatriots about being an "arab-loving commie" or similar, but he does write some fairly observant articles.
  7. One difference is that we don't want, or expect immediate results.
    UK armed forces have learned through experience -almost a sixth-sense, as to what is the appropriate method of dealing with potentially explosive situations.
    A proportionate response may take more time to have an effect but it gives the opposition time to decide it was THEIR idea to pack up & go home - VERY important when dealing with those who have a macho image of themselves.
    If the US sees further conflicts like this being likely in the future, then they need to take a serious look at how we operate & train their people accordingly.
  8. Good Article, yanks are mad did you know that the u.s infantry training manual is written, so an eight year old can understand it. food for thought
  9. Fantastic article. It's amazing how quickly the crime rate went down in Baghdad just after it's fall when the Brits were told, "NI rules, get it done."

    Kudos to our British brothers!
  10. Basra?

    Anyway, slightly off-topic but not worth a separate thread at this stage, Attorney-General announcement expected in Parliament soon about unprecedented prosecution of British troops for murder, allegedly in Basra area during TELIC 1. Not a case we havent already heard of.

    WEAPONS TIGHT on "anecdotes".