Brits Can Bring Foreign Family To UK - Ruling

http://news.sky.com/story/1393951/brits-can-bring-foreign-family-to-uk-ruling

The European Court of Justice has ruled British citizens should be able to bring non-EU family members into the UK without a travel visa.

The decision could open the UK's borders to large numbers of foreign migrants from outside the European Union.

The landmark ruling centres on the case of Sean McCarthy, who has dual British and Irish citizenship, and his Colombian wife Patricia McCarthy Rodriguez.

Mrs McCarthy Rodriguez, who has two children with her husband - both with British citizenship, had to get a "family permit" every six months to visit the UK with her family.

She and her husband took their case to court under the freedom of movement rules and claims she should be able to travel without the visa because she had an EU Residence Card issued by the Spanish government.

The European court today ruled in the couple's favour saying the rules do not allow the British government to stop family members entering the country if they do not have a visa.

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It's all changed considerably over the years.

Back in the late seventies and early eighties, my first wife was an American. I recall on returning from a visit to the States, we just used to rock up at the UK residents desk in immigration at Heathrow, flash my UK passport at them, show her American passport and say she's my wife and then we just strolled through without any problems whatsoever.

I don't envy those who choose to marry someone who isn't a UK national these days when they want to live in the UK.
 
It's all changed considerably over the years.

Back in the late seventies and early eighties, my first wife was an American. I recall on returning from a visit to the States, we just used to rock up at the UK residents desk in immigration at Heathrow, flash my UK passport at them, show her American passport and say she's my wife and then we just strolled through without any problems whatsoever.

I don't envy those who choose to marry someone who isn't a UK national these days when they want to live in the UK.
You haven't mentioned whether your then wife had a UK ILR stamp in her passport.

If yes, no big deal in entering UK.

If no, then I would find a 'raised eyebrow' button useful.
 
It's all changed considerably over the years.

Back in the late seventies and early eighties, my first wife was an American. I recall on returning from a visit to the States, we just used to rock up at the UK residents desk in immigration at Heathrow, flash my UK passport at them, show her American passport and say she's my wife and then we just strolled through without any problems whatsoever.

I don't envy those who choose to marry someone who isn't a UK national these days when they want to live in the UK.
As I understand the ruling, however, it's not just marriage to UK nationals to whom this ruling applies. It means that the Congolese wife of a Portugese national (and dependants), or the Somali husband of a Lithuanian national (and dependants) will have residency (and benefit) rights in the UK. As Desktopcommando suggests, this will be a bonus for the arranged marriage industry, however, while the UK at least makes an attempt to prosecute those involved in this scam, I wouldn't expect much effort from our Eastern and Southern European friends, especially when they know such marriages are unlikely to affect them, as those involved will be on the next coach to Londonistan before the ink on the wedding certificate is dry.

That's another couple of million votes for UKIP, then...
 
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Bradford will double in population in 2 years. Gonna need a few more chippies..


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As I understand the ruling, however, it's not just UK nationals who this ruling applies to. It means that the Congolese wife of a Portugese national (and dependants), or the Somali husband of a Lithuanian national (and dependants) will have residency (and benefit) rights in the UK. That's another couple of million votes for UKIP, then...
You think that anyone who moves into the UK for a job should be forced to leave their family behind?
 
Yes she did have the stamp in her passport.
 
You think that anyone who moves into the UK for a job should be forced to leave their family behind?
There's the rub. In principle, no, however that applies to migrants who've applied for, and received residency and work permits based on information honestly provided. It also assumes that they've got a job to go to a that they pay income tax and NI on. Meet those criteria and fill your boots. Come here on a faked marriage so that you can do unregistered manual labour while claiming child and other benefits, then yes, I do have a problem with that.
 
There's the rub. In principle, no, however that applies to migrants who've applied for, and received residency and work permits based on information honestly provided. It also assumes that they've got a job to go to a that they pay income tax and NI on. Meet those criteria and fill your boots. Come here on a faked marriage so that you can do unregistered manual labour while claiming child and other benefits, then yes, I do have a problem with that.
The situation hasn't really changed any though, all the dishonest stuff happens now anyway and this ruling doesn't change any of that all it does is cut out a pointless form filling exercise.

The problems with the benefit scroungers is 100% the governments problem as the EU Free movement of workers rules do actually allow countries to say no but for some strange reason the UK doesn't seem to know this.
 
It's all changed considerably over the years.

Back in the late seventies and early eighties, my first wife was an American. I recall on returning from a visit to the States, we just used to rock up at the UK residents desk in immigration at Heathrow, flash my UK passport at them, show her American passport and say she's my wife and then we just strolled through without any problems whatsoever.

I don't envy those who choose to marry someone who isn't a UK national these days when they want to live in the UK.
That is exactly how it worked last time I came back to the UK with my Japanese wife, and she still has her maiden name on her passport
 
Nobody moves to the UK to work.
My mate's wife was headhunted from Australia - she is some sort of civil engineer who specialises in fire protection in industrial complexes. She had 4 British grandparents and an English dad so could work here somehow, he was descended on his dad's side from Austrian Jews who fled the Anschluß, first to Italy, and then they fled Italy on the only boat they could see when the Germans took over which dumped them in Kenya before they rocked up to Australia in the late 50s.
I think it took 2 years before he had full permission to stay here and about 6 months before he was allowed to work.
But she definitely came here to work.
She got headhunted again last year and they moved to London.
 
As I understand the ruling, however, it's not just marriage to UK nationals to whom this ruling applies. It means that the Congolese wife of a Portugese national (and dependants), or the Somali husband of a Lithuanian national (and dependants) will have residency (and benefit) rights in the UK. As Desktopcommando suggests, this will be a bonus for the arranged marriage industry, however, while the UK at least makes an attempt to prosecute those involved in this scam, I wouldn't expect much effort from our Eastern and Southern European friends, especially when they know such marriages are unlikely to affect them, as those involved will be on the next coach to Londonistan before the ink on the wedding certificate is dry.

That's another couple of million votes for UKIP, then...
The same goes for the hundreds of 'Portugese' Goan's living in the UK. Swindon is rife with families, all of whom were born in India but through some Goan/Portugese treaty they can claim POR passports and live here quite legally and bring other family members over.

Edited to add link and explanation:

An Indian born in that country and who has spent his entire life in India can he become a European Union citizen, is the immediate question, which comes to mind. For some with no connection to history Indians opting for Portuguese citizenship may seem strange. But this is the route, which Indians from the western state of Goa and union territories of Daman and Diu have been exploring to further their European dreams.

There have been hundreds and thousands of Indians from the Portuguese colonies that have gone to Europe and settled there after acquiring Portuguese citizenship. A Portuguese citizenship, which gives them passage to work and settle any where in Europe as European citizens.

For most Goans the most favoured destination is UK. Rough estimates indicate that there are more than 50,000 Portuguese Goans in England. The reason for favouring England over other countries is the language, which the Goans find ease to adjust, while the residents from Daman and Diu have settled in different countries.



http://www.goaholidayhomes.com/article/goans-explore-europe-through-portuguese-citizenship.html
 
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Cue CMD saying the ruling is totally unaceptable and that he won't stand for it, before marrying his daughter off to Mbongwe from Abuja half an hour later.
 

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