British UOR 60mm Mortar

#4
catchyerselfon said:
http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/285986_ARMY_VEHICLESEQUIPMENT_V12.PDF_web.pdf (on pg 9)
Have a shuftie at that.
Nice little kit reference, that. Where the hell was it when I had to do veh recognition lessons? :)
 
#7
forgive me for being ignorant but what has actually changed between the 51 and the 60?

what functions does it perform more adequatley than the 51? im guessing it can carry a bigger payload but other than that what advantages does it hold over the 51?
 
#8
AFAIK the 51mm ammo isn't made anymore and starting a production line for it wouldn't be very cost effective, so it was being withdrawn (without being replaced originally).
 
#9
Jubbles said:
forgive me for being ignorant but what has actually changed between the 51 and the 60?

what functions does it perform more adequatley than the 51? im guessing it can carry a bigger payload but other than that what advantages does it hold over the 51?
On the Mortar thread there is a post from one of the ATs on the site....

Basically, Royal Ordnance bulldozed the manufacturing line for 51mm ammo.... as no one, including the British Army were purchasing the stuff. IIRC the Army were given the option to save the line.

Basically the choice is.... rebuild the line for 51mm, or find a replacement.

From what I can see the 60mm does an admirable job, and even brings some extra goodness to the party (ie the option to bipod or fire like a 51.

Downside heavier ammo, upside heavier ammo on target :twisted:
 
#10
51mm was just the hangover from the 2" stuff we had for years. Remember your inserts? Good but as the guys have mentioned above re-tooling for more bombs is not sustainable. 60mm is widely available (and even used by our Spam cousins in theatre) so cadging a few bombs aint an issue.
You'll like it once you have a few shots of it.
 
#11
because it can be used in the bipod role by qualified mortar men we can use the ballistic computer making it more accurate and becasue its just a smaller version of the 81mm it is man portable unlike the 81mm
 
#12
we had the 60 and 51 on herrick we found the 60 was good but a bit too heavy to be used light role, we only had the longer barrel which was heavier than the shorter variant. we found it was more accurate than the 51. we would mainly use the 60 when in a fixed location and the 51 when out on patrol. it'll be a shame to get rid of the 52 as it is still very effctive.

we also found the IR illum was really useful
 
#15
usmarox said:
catchyerselfon said:
http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/285986_ARMY_VEHICLESEQUIPMENT_V12.PDF_web.pdf (on pg 9)
Have a shuftie at that.
Nice little kit reference, that. Where the hell was it when I had to do veh recognition lessons? :)
Bit off topic regarding the thread but have you read the UGL bit.....buckshot for CQB????
 
#17
It's awsome!
I used a 40mm flachette round in Kiwi fired from an M79. I think they were a load left over from the Americans in Vietnam.
 
#18
Picked up from the linked article:

With a maximum speed of 90 kph Mastiff can be
armed with a 7.62 general purpose machine gun,
50 mm cannon or 40 mm automatic grenade launcher.
Is this a typo? What 50mm cannon? :?
 
#19
No , more an OPSE screw up. The 50mm . There is a UOR out for the Bushmaster III to be fitted onto the newer version of the Jackle 6 wheeled version (as well as using it as a loggy vehicle).
 
#20
From the same "new and future defence equipment" publication:



Loving the 58 pattern and para smock! :D
 

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