British Soldier found dead in Cyprus

#1
Reuters UK report that a teenager was found dead in his barracks (Episkopi) early this morning.

NICOSIA (Reuters) - A teenaged British soldier was found hanged in his barracks in Cyprus on Friday in an apparent suicide, army sources said.
The 18-year-old from Glasgow was serving in the Episkopi garrison in southern Cyprus, one of two military areas Britain retains on the Mediterranean island. His name and unit were not released by military authorities.

A military spokesman said: "I can confirm there was a tragic incident involving the death of a soldier early this morning. Our thoughts are with his family.

"There is a full investigation into all aspects of this incident," the spokesman said, declining to comment further.

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How sad :cry: Commiserations to the family.....

Ghost
 
#6
My thoughts are with his family

Ne Obliviscaris
 
#7
R.I.P.

Poor soul to have felt the need to do it, but my thoughts are with those he's left behind.

I hope upon hope that the press show restraint and don't start a hysterical witch-hunt before the proper enquiry is held.
 
#8
Personally I feel that suicide is the most selfish act anyone can do, unless you tell your nearest and dearest exactly why, (for serious disease etc. I can understand it), however "I just can't cope" seems the ultimate cop out. I knew one bloke who ended it all because he got a dear john, ruined two families and affected others (me) for the rest of our lives, what with guilt etc and could we have done something more to stop it.

I have thought about it a long time and no, there was nothing that anyone could have done, he had made his decision and no one could have stopped him, (a solid shot into the mouth does not leave much room for the paramedics) So for the pain that it caused me and the others then "fu"k him, fu"k him till all eternity, don't leave your guilt by putting it on everyone else, because that what you do.

Nothing is that bad, and to do it on active service is the ultimate betrayal. To tell your comrades that they are not good enough to support you through an emotional situation is the ultimate slap in the face, how dare anyone on active service commit such an act when there is a myriad of support services avaliable and more importantly when you leave such an emotional mess behind. RIP not him, but to his friends: accept there was nothing you could do, the fault was not yours but his.
 
#9
Akira said:
Personally I feel that suicide is the most selfish act anyone can do, unless you tell your nearest and dearest exactly why, (for serious disease etc. I can understand it), however "I just can't cope" seems the ultimate cop out. I knew one bloke who ended it all because he got a dear john, ruined two families and affected others (me) for the rest of our lives, what with guilt etc and could we have done something more to stop it.

I have thought about it a long time and no, there was nothing that anyone could have done, he had made his decision and no one could have stopped him, (a solid shot into the mouth does not leave much room for the paramedics) So for the pain that it caused me and the others then "fu"k him, fu"k him till all eternity, don't leave your guilt by putting it on everyone else, because that what you do.

Nothing is that bad, and to do it on active service is the ultimate betrayal. To tell your comrades that they are not good enough to support you through an emotional situation is the ultimate slap in the face, how dare anyone on active service commit such an act when there is a myriad of support services avaliable and more importantly when you leave such an emotional mess behind. RIP not him, but to his friends: accept there was nothing you could do, the fault was not yours but his.
I personally find your statement a sanctimonious lot of claptrap. I hope you never find yourself down in the depths of despair that you would contemplate taking your own life. you are airing out your own guilt here, do not put it out on others, we know nothing of the facts whys or anything else. it could be his comrades behaviour that caused this.

I suggest you do not judge on what we do not know.

RIP Young Fellow, condolences to Family and friends.
 
#10
Akira said:
Personally I feel that suicide is the most selfish act anyone can do, unless you tell your nearest and dearest exactly why, (for serious disease etc. I can understand it), however "I just can't cope" seems the ultimate cop out. I knew one bloke who ended it all because he got a dear john, ruined two families and affected others (me) for the rest of our lives, what with guilt etc and could we have done something more to stop it.

I have thought about it a long time and no, there was nothing that anyone could have done, he had made his decision and no one could have stopped him, (a solid shot into the mouth does not leave much room for the paramedics) So for the pain that it caused me and the others then "fu"k him, fu"k him till all eternity, don't leave your guilt by putting it on everyone else, because that what you do.

Nothing is that bad, and to do it on active service is the ultimate betrayal. To tell your comrades that they are not good enough to support you through an emotional situation is the ultimate slap in the face, how dare anyone on active service commit such an act when there is a myriad of support services avaliable and more importantly when you leave such an emotional mess behind. RIP not him, but to his friends: accept there was nothing you could do, the fault was not yours but his.
Akira, you've obviously suffered a loss in the past. I don't know the circumstances of your loss, just as I don't know the circumstances of this one. What I do know is that friends and family will be upset enough anyway without blaming the dead.

Rest easy young fella.
 
#11
Akira said:
Personally I feel that suicide is the most selfish act anyone can do, unless you tell your nearest and dearest exactly why, (for serious disease etc. I can understand it), however "I just can't cope" seems the ultimate cop out. I knew one bloke who ended it all because he got a dear john, ruined two families and affected others (me) for the rest of our lives, what with guilt etc and could we have done something more to stop it.

I have thought about it a long time and no, there was nothing that anyone could have done, he had made his decision and no one could have stopped him, (a solid shot into the mouth does not leave much room for the paramedics) So for the pain that it caused me and the others then "fu"k him, fu"k him till all eternity, don't leave your guilt by putting it on everyone else, because that what you do.

Nothing is that bad, and to do it on active service is the ultimate betrayal. To tell your comrades that they are not good enough to support you through an emotional situation is the ultimate slap in the face, how dare anyone on active service commit such an act when there is a myriad of support services avaliable and more importantly when you leave such an emotional mess behind. RIP not him, but to his friends: accept there was nothing you could do, the fault was not yours but his.



You don't know? Let's not guess what on earth would push a young kid to take his own life... to him, whatever it was it was more than bad.
 
#12
It's sad when someone so young feels death is the only way out but it's worse on the family I agree - their the ones who will ask why and have to live with this tragedy for the rest of their lives. For that reason my thoughts are not with him but with his family, may your grief bring you strength to deal with life and it's falls.
 
#14
PassingBells said:
Akira said:
Personally I feel that suicide is the most selfish act anyone can do, unless you tell your nearest and dearest exactly why, (for serious disease etc. I can understand it), however "I just can't cope" seems the ultimate cop out. I knew one bloke who ended it all because he got a dear john, ruined two families and affected others (me) for the rest of our lives, what with guilt etc and could we have done something more to stop it.

I have thought about it a long time and no, there was nothing that anyone could have done, he had made his decision and no one could have stopped him, (a solid shot into the mouth does not leave much room for the paramedics) So for the pain that it caused me and the others then "fu"k him, fu"k him till all eternity, don't leave your guilt by putting it on everyone else, because that what you do.

Nothing is that bad, and to do it on active service is the ultimate betrayal. To tell your comrades that they are not good enough to support you through an emotional situation is the ultimate slap in the face, how dare anyone on active service commit such an act when there is a myriad of support services avaliable and more importantly when you leave such an emotional mess behind. RIP not him, but to his friends: accept there was nothing you could do, the fault was not yours but his.
Akira, you've obviously suffered a loss in the past. I don't know the circumstances of your loss, just as I don't know the circumstances of this one. What I do know is that friends and family will be upset enough anyway without blaming the dead.

Rest easy young fella.
I agree wholeheartedly with Passing Bells on this one. Don't pass judgement on everybody, Akirara, just because you happen to have experienced the same. The "same" can also be very different in a lot of cases.
Shouldn't we take things as they lie and not judge before time?

MsG
 
#15
I am not judging, merely saying that these days with the myriad of support groups avaliable in every theatre, that suicide (if that's what is was) is the most extrreme action to take. As I have already said IMHO it leaves nothing but sadness (and guilt) behind. I cannot concieve (barring terminal illness) what would be bad enough to take one's own life.
There is no excuse for not seeking help, there are specialists in every theatre, who are ready to give support. To do what he did (if it was suicide) is completly selfish. How are his mates feeling now, are they second guessing themselves, are they 100% focussed on what they should be doing, I would say not. That is the reason I call it selfish, he has gone, but instead of leaving with another taking his place he has left a huge hole in the unit he has left behind, dear god the job is difficult enough without this sort of additional pressure.
 
#16
Akira, the only reason that post remianed, was to see what other posters thought.

You are not the only one that had a close friend kill himself. I have had 2 friends do it. One with cancer, and his family knew, I didn't , it hurt. The other one killed himself because his girlfriend played silly buggers trying to prove that he actually loved her. That really did hurt. In fact I spoke to her last week. It's been 15 years , and she still isn't married because of it. My , and I admit non-sympathetic reaction was "Good" . A brilliant young mind killed himself because he thought you were leaving him.

Maybe I'm mercenary or just selfish , but there is no one on this planet worth killing myself over, but that's me.

We don't know why this young soldier killed himself yet, but he did. Rather than condemn him out of hand as selfish , let's wait and see what the likely reasons were, shall we?

You should also remember, that there are almost certainly Arrse members, who are members of his unit. Spare a thought for them.
 
#19
We shall never know the turmoil he was going through when he took his life.

My thoughts are with his family. RIP
 
#20
Akira said:
I am not judging, merely saying that these days with the myriad of support groups avaliable in every theatre, that suicide (if that's what is was) is the most extrreme action to take. As I have already said IMHO it leaves nothing but sadness (and guilt) behind. I cannot concieve (barring terminal illness) what would be bad enough to take one's own life.
There is no excuse for not seeking help, there are specialists in every theatre, who are ready to give support. To do what he did (if it was suicide) is completly selfish. How are his mates feeling now, are they second guessing themselves, are they 100% focussed on what they should be doing, I would say not. That is the reason I call it selfish, he has gone, but instead of leaving with another taking his place he has left a huge hole in the unit he has left behind, dear god the job is difficult enough without this sort of additional pressure.
Everything you said presumes rationality on the part of the victim. Anyone who knows the first damn thing about clinical depression will tell you that rationality, for people who harbour suicidal tendencies, is, almost by definition, one of the first things to go out of the window. Cut the lad some slack will you? This 'lack of moral fibre' approach of yours belongs to the army of WWI, not the 21st Century where the medical profession knows better.

My thoughts go out to the family and friends.
 

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