British Lions vs Argentina

Captain_Crusty

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#1
Unfortunately I chose the worst possible place to watch last night's British Lions match against the Pumas; alongside 30 vocal Argentinian soldiers and marines.

I don't think life would have been worth living if Johnny had not put away that last kick 9 minutes into injury time. :oops:
 
#3
They'll get better.

Can't get much worse and I've already spent £40 on my lovely new Lions shirt.
 
#4
Was the TV reception good on South Georgia ?.

I hope none of them had read the suggestion in one of the Falklands threads that sovereignty be decided at the Lions/Pumas match.
 
#7
As is always the case, a few definite Test prospects have been re-mustered as dirt trackers while one or two outsiders have laid down their markers for consideration. We were a little shabby up front in the set and a little unco-ordinated around the park in the back row. Corry looks like he is picking up where he left off in 2001and Michael Owen also looked quite sharp.

Cusiter showed his true potential - it must have seemed strange to play behind a scrum going forwards although to be fair that wasn't quite such a given last night. If you can play 9 behind Scotland's pack then playing behind the Lions will be a joy...

O'Callaghan looks like another Jeremy Davidson, Wilko did the biz in every department of out-half play but Gordon Who? D'Arcy needs to sort his life out. He played like a waste of air-miles last night.

mmmm...the game's afoot. Bring on the Bay of Plenty!!

Oooh and well played Ledesma! Mendes you are still a dirty leg-lifting, blind-side slapping, ear chomping cnut.
 
#8
Cuddles i agree with you on most things except Wilkinson he is not as sharp as he could be and the KIWI'S will hammer him . His out of hand kicking was poor and he missed a few tackles . Stephen Jones for me .
 
#9
Never mind. We can hope that Farrell will be the saviour of Rugby Union. He is certainly being greatly missed by the pie eating faithful up north. It is a huge gamble by the RFU to bring in someone who will turn 30 next birthday in a bid for some leadership qualities and a hard running skillful forward.
 
#10
recce-cpl said:
Cuddles i agree with you on most things except Wilkinson he is not as sharp as he could be and the KIWI'S will hammer him . His out of hand kicking was poor and he missed a few tackles . Stephen Jones for me .
Fair point, how about we play the Kiwis at their own game though and play Jones at 10 with Jonny as a "second five-eighths"?
 
#11
Yes thatsounds like a good idea to me . I am welsh granted , but i am British first so i want the British lions to win of course . I know the Welsh are very bigoted in all rugby matters . I am not , on his day Wilko is the top out half there is but i think jones is the man at the moment . How ever the kiwis would invest a lot of time and effort in cancelling wilkos game . This then leaves the other 14 players in the lions to crack on , do you get my point .
 
#12
recce-cpl said:
How ever the kiwis would invest a lot of time and effort in cancelling wilkos game . This then leaves the other 14 players in the lions to crack on , do you get my point .
Yes, 15 -2 (to cancel out Wilko for sure) = 13

14-13 = Lions overlap every time they try to cancel out Wilko...it is the same arithmetic that the Australians tried to use in the first Test in 2001 on Jason Robinson!

It is one way of playing the noble sport/religion...the only trouble is if that is the sole game plan. :twisted:

BTW recce-cpl, don't feel ashamed to be so strongly pro-Welsh - I'm just as strongly pro-Scottish and I can't even justify that on the basis of a cracking Six Nations championship, which we all enjoyed so well done Wales!!
 
#13
recce-cpl said:
How ever the kiwis would invest a lot of time and effort in cancelling wilkos game . This then leaves the other 14 players in the lions to crack on , do you get my point .
Yes, 15 -2 (to cancel out Wilko for sure) = 13

14-13 = Lions overlap every time they try to cancel out Wilko...it is the same arithmetic that the Australians tried to use in the first Test in 2001 on Jason Robinson!

It is one way of playing the noble sport/religion...the only trouble is if that is the sole game plan. :twisted:

BTW recce-cpl, don't feel ashamed to be so strongly pro-Welsh - I'm just as strongly pro-Scottish and I can't even justify that on the basis of a cracking Six Nations championship, which we all enjoyed so well done Wales!!
 
#14
why dont people say it like it is? without all that extra extra time the Argies would have stuffed us. whatever happened to the good sport brits who used to say well done argies - you played a good game?
 
#15
Wilko played well when you consider that it’s his first international since the world cup final coupled with two serious injuries and only a hand full of club games. He showed that his ability to kick penalty regardless of pressure is still with him. Woodward knows that the All backs will try to break him, He is a tough lad but I feel that a bunch of angry Maoris jumping in feet first when ever he gets the ball may be a bit much only time will tell.
Much more worrying was the number of Lions sporting truly terrible mullets it was like the 70,s had never ended on that pitch.
 
#16
exile1 said:
why dont people say it like it is? without all that extra extra time the Argies would have stuffed us. whatever happened to the good sport brits who used to say well done argies - you played a good game?
What extra time dingbat? I think you mean stoppage time...i.e. time which reflects periods when the clock has been stopped to reflect the fact that no play is taking place!

Yes they did play well but that is obviously going to be a side issue because we are all champing at the bit to get tore in to the Kiwis. As for the myth of the good sport Brits, well when I used to play for my Grammar School versus any Public School we had only one purpose, winning. Maybe we need a bit more of that dog in the country's sporting teams. Rugby is just as much a commercial sport now as soccer and just because the players talk nicely to the referees, they are still looking to get advantage by fair and foul - to whit the Argie scrum half trying to knock the ball out of Cu's hands at the put in when he thought the ref was unsighted...
 
#17
exile1 said:
why dont people say it like it is? without all that extra extra time the Argies would have stuffed us. whatever happened to the good sport brits who used to say well done argies - you played a good game?
What extra time dingbat? I think you mean stoppage time...i.e. time which reflects periods when the clock has been stopped to reflect the fact that no play is taking place!

Yes they did play well but that is obviously going to be a side issue because we are all champing at the bit to get tore in to the Kiwis. As for the myth of the good sport Brits, well when I used to play for my Grammar School versus any Public School we had only one purpose, winning. Maybe we need a bit more of that dog in the country's sporting teams. Rugby is just as much a commercial sport now as soccer and just because the players talk nicely to the referees, they are still looking to get advantage by fair and foul - to whit the Argie scrum half trying to knock the ball out of Cu's hands at the put in when he thought the ref was unsighted...
 

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#18
I have taken the decision to move this thread, as it is not necessarily a singularly 'officer related' topic.

This is a subjective decision, as I have left other threads in the mess due to their intellectual merit. However, if anyone has an issue with my call, please PM me...
 
#19
Cuddles said:
Yes, 15 -2 (to cancel out Wilko for sure) = 13

14-13 = Lions overlap every time they try to cancel out Wilko...it is the same arithmetic that the Australians tried to use in the first Test in 2001 on Jason Robinson!
Very true, also the back row will need to be on the ball to stop the kiwis employing similar tatics as the frogs did a few years ago of targeting Wilkinson with betsen, but again if this happens and they target their back row at him, instead of doubling up in the backs, the inside ball to a hard running winger coming in or a flanker standing off could prove dividends.

A flying robinson in off the wings or from full back running at forwards would be a sight to see, I know I wouldn't like to try and scrag him.

Also hope the lions forwards dont worry about using the boot and give them a good shoeing, because as sure as night is dark they will be handing it out.

Julian White is a must at tighthead.
 
#20
Stan like yourself i am a fully paid up member of the FRU (less cauliflower ears i tape mine up ) Julian white for Tight head as long as he is a goodish lad . He has a rep for being punchy and the kiwi's know this . His brother is in 9th/12th lancers and is a good lad but crap at rugby . Anyway i do disagree with you on the Robinson front . I dont think he should get in the team . As i think his game plan is easy to read . (wales covered him with ease in 6n) The kiwi's will stuff him . As for wilko and jones as i have said before on his best day wilko is better than jones . But i do think we have seen the best of wilko , the amount of knocks and injury's he has had is bound to off affected him . I only hope as Dozy Bint says it gets better than against the argies otherwise it will be a torrid time for British rugby . ( i am sure it will )
 

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