British guns used against Nato forces in Afghanistan

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  1. British guns used against Nato forces in Afghanistan
    Dozens of British machine guns have been stolen in Afghanistan and used against Nato forces, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.

    By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
    Published: 7:45AM BST 04 Sep 2010

    Serious questions are being asked about a cover-up by commanders in Helmand after the 59 Minimi machine guns were not reported missing for almost a year. The theft was revealed only when American forces recovered two of the guns following a battle with the Taliban.
    Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, who was told about the incident this week, is said to be furious that the weapons were allowed to be taken by the insurgents and, potentially, could have been used against British troops
    He has ordered an inquiry into why enough weapons to equip an infantry battalion could go missing without anyone noticing or being informed.
    The light machine guns, which can fire 1,000 rounds a minute, were flown from Britain to Camp Bastion in Helmand last October. They were then transported overland to British forces operating at Kandahar airfield but it is believed the convoy was either ambushed or the weapons were illegally sold. No one realised or reported that they had gone missing until last month, when American forces operating in southern Afghanistan discovered two of the guns, whose serial numbers matched those stolen. Defence sources have described the incident as a “terrible embarrassment for British forces”.
    “We have no evidence that they have been used against British forces but clearly it’s an alarming situation,” said one defence source.
    A Royal Military Police investigation has been under way since the end of last month. Dr Fox was said to be “livid” and “hit the roof” when told about the incident.
    “Alongside the official investigation, he has ordered a wider review of how weapons are transported and is asking some serious questions over how this happened,” an MoD source said. “It’s astonishing that 59 machine guns went missing last year and no one realised it for months.”
    An MoD spokesman confirmed the investigation “into the whereabouts of a number of weapons in Afghanistan which remain unaccounted for since late last year”.
    He added: “We always take the care and maintenance of our equipment extremely seriously, which is why we have procedures in place to protect against the loss of assets in what continues to be a busy and complex operational environment. Whilst acknowledging the seriousness of this incident, we are confident that there are not significant or widespread problems with the delivery chain.”
    British guns used against Nato forces in Afghanistan - Telegraph
  2. WHAT...

    moving weapons by road from Bastion to KAF..?

    Why would anyone want to do that...
  3. Maybe we should move them with all those spare helos sat on the pan. :)
  4. It will be fun to sit back and watch the chest poking that goes on with this one.

    I blame Tony Blair....the cnut.

    Not the first time its happened though, I remember a load of Dutch ISO containers full of NVG's and Body Armour supposedly being "intercepted" by Terry on route between Pakistan and KAF.

    Plus with the amount of Mugs, head torches, mag lights and lighters I have lost in theatre then Im also guilty of supplying Terry.
  5. Perhaps we should be grateful that the Taleban now have a means of rapidly expending any 5.56mm in their possession, with relatively little chance of hitting anything closer than point blank?

    Waits for inevitable ruckus to start on the merits of 5.56 vs 7.62 and barrel length...
  6. Because we have no aircraft.
  7. Hell! That's it!
    A couple of containers of L85A1, KF shirts, 58 pattern and Puttees and we could **** Terry up for generations!
  8. More to the point, why would anyone want to move weapons by road utilising civvies and jingly trucks with minimal protection?

    Oh - because of the contractorisation of the supply chain which is less effective and costs more money than the military solution, but allows PJHQ to deploy more combat troops within the MoD/Treasury imposed ceiling, which is a proxy for a cost limit. Oh, and because no-one cares when Indian drivers die (only when weapons get nicked).