British Get Blamed for Helmand’s Security Problems

[Jamie_Mayer]

Was looking on google news this morning and came across this :

British Get Blamed for Helmand's Security Problems

just wondered what everyone made of this?

 

[The_Goon]

Very upsetting in that the Afghan government appears to be suggesting that Britain is only there to avenge our ancestors. Fails to take into account the fact that we've lost good service personnel over there, fighting to try and stabilise a province for the Afghans.

It's exceedingly disheartening to hear this view being expounded and supported by the government of Afghanistan - makes you wonder, why bother?

 

[node]

The Polis. in Afgan are trying to get brownie points if and when the Taliban return, to save their arses

 

[Ord_Sgt]

“Security cannot be restored in Helmand province until the British are removed and another country’s forces are deployed,” he said.

How stupid are they? Do they think that theres anyone else out there who will bother to help them?

“For a foreigner to enter the house of a Pashtun without permission is a crime against humanity. The soldiers should be tried and punished.

This level of stupidity beggars belief.

How ungreatful can you get.

 

[bobath]

Maybe we should just pull back and let the ANA do all the work. See if the local population like haveing the Talban back.

Ban music, smoking, driving just about anything else they like to do.

 

[Ord_Sgt]

“They could wipe out the Taleban in a day if they wanted to. The Taleban are not as strong as they say.”

Naaah mate the Taliban are pussies.

What planet are these people on?

 

[Filius_nullius]

There also moaning about the noise of the helicopters. Next thing they'll have one of those no win no pay solicitors suing the MOD for knackering there hearing.

http://www.iwpr.net/?p=ahv&s=f&o=338330&apc_state=henpahv

 

[The_Cad]

Perhaps we should invite The Russians back... see how they like that?

 

[Perturbed]

“For a foreigner to enter the house of a Pashtun without permission is a crime against humanity. The soldiers should be tried and punished.

This level of stupidity beggars belief.

How ungreatful can you get.

There is something in that complaint though. It is considered a massive violation to eneter their property uninvited. Not sure what could be done about that.

 

[OldSnowy]

“For a foreigner to enter the house of a Pashtun without permission is a crime against humanity. The soldiers should be tried and punished.

This level of stupidity beggars belief.

How ungreatful can you get.

There is something in that complaint though. It is considered a massive violation to eneter their property uninvited. Not sure what could be done about that.

Hmmm, JDAM? FAE? Thermobaric? The possibilities allowed for by modern technology are endless!

 

[Ord_Sgt]

I like the way you think OldSnowy.

 

[The_Majors_Son]

I'm sure (from my limited viewpoint) that the ranter in question is just trying to get some mileage, safe in the knowledge that what he asks for will not happen.

Even the most dimwitted in thier Gov't will realise that should we pull out, some far nastier men with beards, guns. and tea-towels for headwear will take our place, much to the country's detriment.

TMS

 

[The_Goon]

Problem is, reading the story, if it's accurate, support for this persons viewpoint within parliament (in Afghanistan) is actually quite large - which is what is worrying.

 

[Perturbed]

Problem is, reading the story, if it's accurate, support for this persons viewpoint within parliament (in Afghanistan) is actually quite large - which is what is worrying.

Which is rather strange considering the majority of Afghans that pop up on the news seem to have little fear of British troops. Plenty of news stories have shown villagers seeking out troops for medical atention/protest etc. Weird behaviour if they really thought the British where after some sort of missdirected revenge upon the local populace.

Sounds like silly political gesturing to me. On the other hand (apart from 4 fingers and a thumb) they do seem to think very differently to us so you never know.

 

[The_Goon]

Just going by what the story says, which is bad drills in itself, but if hypothetically the Afghan government did move to have the Brits either seriously curtailed or outright removed, what would be the reaction in A) Britain, and B) On the ground in Afghan, from Soldiers and Afghans alike?

It almost certainly won't happen. They can't be that stupid.

 

[Ord_Sgt]

Actually if you read other stories by the same guy he clearly has an agenda. I would take any of what he has to say with a large pinch of salt.

 

[The_Goon]

Ah, well, much happier now, then, Ord_Sgt.

 

[Zarathustra]

Well, the amount of people that thanked us for the work we did while i was in Afghan over the summer might disagree with this report.

Especially the village we went to where the locals were telling us how the taliban had tied one guy to a tree and threatened to kill him for talking to us.

Or the guy who took 20 minutes to convince to take $100 as payment when we kicked the door of his compound in in the middle of the night, because as he said "You are here to help us, we should be paying you" (or words to that effect.

Or all the locals who have reecieved medical care (especially when the taliban attack the place where the care is being given).

Although this might be the feelign in the parliment i doubt the people of helmand would be happy to see us go and watch the taliban return.

Although it is entirely possible that the locals we spoke to only said these things because we were there and when the Taliban are about side with them, it's hard to say.

 

[ukdaytona]

Ban music, smoking, driving just about anything else they like to do.

Shite, dont say the PC loonies are infiltrating Afgan now.......

I hear Mr Broone is already writing his speech of appology