British files: Nazis ‘shipped arms to Palestinians’

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  1. "At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:

    The [Grand Mufti (of Jerusalem) Haj Amin al-Husseini] was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz."



    Of all the Arabs convinced of Hitler's coming triumph, none was so eager as Haj Amin al-Husseini, the acknowledged leader of the Palestinian Arab cause and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, who had fled from Palestine to Iraq to exile in Berlin where he led the "Arab office," met with Hitler whom he called "the Protector of Islam," served the Germans in Bosnia where he was instrumental in raising Muslim volunteers among the Bosnians to work with the SS. At the end of the war, the Yugoslav government declared him a war criminal. Palestinian Arabs still regard him as a heroic leader. Lending active support to the Arab war effort were Falangist volunteers from Franco's Spain, Bosnian Muslims and Nazi renegades who had escaped the Allies in Europe.




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    http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/mohammedism/1941December15_2.jpg

    At the eve of the "final solution" to the "Jewish Problem",
    the Mufti (Yasser Arafat's father's brother) and Adolf Hitler confer
    in Berlin, November 21, 1941

    http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/nazis.html


    In 1943, Amin Al Husseini heads the Hanzar Division of Nazi Muslims.
    It was Hitler's largest SS Division and was responsible for the genocide
    of Serbians, Gypsies and Jews. It lies at the root of today's unrest in Serbia/Bosnia-Hercegovina/Croatia.


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    Grand Mufti Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini with Hitler

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    Amin Al Husseini spent World War II in Berlin at Hitler's side. Husseini established a division of Muslim Nazis "the Hanzar" division and played a first-hand role in instigating the genocide of Europe's Jews, Serbs and Gypsies. After World War II, he actively recruited Nazi officers into the Arab governments of the Middle East. Yasser Arafat became the disciple of Amin Al Husseini at the age of 17.

    In time, he came to be known as the "Fhrer's Mufti" and the "Arab Fhrer". In the annual protest against the Balfour Declaration held in 1943 at the Luftwaffe hall in Berlin, the Mufti praised the Germans because they "know how to get rid of the Jews, and that brings us close to the Germans and sets us in their camp is that, up to today." Echoing Muhammad after the battle of Badr, on March 1, 1944 the Mufti called in a broadcast from Berlin:


    "Arabs! Rise as one and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history and religion. This saves your honor."

     
  2. Interesting that the Germans formed alliances wirth anti British elements.

    Does that mena that the jewish Irgun and Stern gangs were fighting for the sames side as Hitler? These chaps seem to have carried out more acts of terrorism durign the war than the palestinians. On your other pro Israel post you dismissed the Stern Gang as insignificanrt. Small but far from insignificant, but since they containded some of the founders of the Likud party including two Prime Ministers.
     
  3. You mean they were members of IZ"L. The political right in Israel did not come to the fore of politics until the '70s and it took both men 30-40 years to ascend to the top.
     
  4. Let's look at Finland - a democratic country in 1941. Finns received German weapons too (and in big numbers). Finland hosted German troops, attacked Soviet Union (ally of the UK). The UK declared a state of war with Finland and what?

    Some (maybe very few) Palestinian private persons 61-65 years ago received German weapons and what?
     
  5. Zionists who tried to establish contact with the Nazis did so with only one intention: to rescue Jewish lives from Nazi occupied Europe. Stern group was a tiny fringe organiation (500 members at most), which hoped it could make a deal with the Nazis to save Europe's Jews by getting them to Palestine. As the 'final solution' was not adopted by the Nazis until 1942, they were not behaving wholly irrationally.

    Pteranadon, I've already replied it

    here
    http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/p=678032/highlight=Hakim.html#678032
     
  6. There were very strong links between the nationalist arabs and the Nazis. The former saw the British as having betrayed them in their quest for independence post WWI and they also saw Jewish immigration into Palestine as a threat, therefore it was a natural alliance. The Nazis saw the arabs as a way of undermining the British position in the Middle East in WWII (e.g. the Iraqi uprising in 1941) aimed at deflecting British men & material away from the front in N. Africa.

    As far as I was aware, the Germans were loathe to supply too much equipment to the arabs but provided training for nationalist arabs (including those from the Mandate).
     
  7. It's not exactly news. The activities of the Germans in the middle East are well known. Attempts to promote anti-British risings in Iraq and Afghanistan were good ideas on their part. Had they been successful they would have cause us serious problems.




    Finland, received lots of weapons and equipment from France and Britain to help them against the Soviets who'd invaded them in case you'd forgotten and when the Germans and Finns attacked the Soviet Union we weren't allies. In fact Brtiain only declared war on Finland almost 6 months after the start of the continuation war and the USA never did.
     
  8. ...because Finland crossed pre-Winter-war border. Finland (democratic state btw) claimed to annex huge territories in Russia that never been part of Finland, where were no Finns (never in history).

    So what was a difference between Stalin's Soviet Union and democratic Finland in 40's? Only a size of territory.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_war

    So first British military action took place long before formal declaration of war.
     

  9. Ah, yes the raid of July 1941. If you'd actually care to learn a little about it you'd see that the Fleet Air Arm (not the RAF) attacked both Kirkenes (Norway) and Petsamo (Finland...now of course Pechenga and part of Russia). It wasn't aimed at Finnish troops or targets. In fact there were precious few Finns there at all...thanks to the activities of the Soviets during the winter war. The raid was aimed at destroying German controlled shipping and port installations, these two ports were important for keeping Gebirgs Korps Norwegen supplied in their attempt to reach Murmansk, which of course they never did. The raid itself was a complete disaster and many men and aircraft were lost. As it happens, some of those crews are buried in the small commonwealth war cemetery in the town where i live.


    http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/RollofHonour/Battlehonour_crewlists/Petsamo_Kirkenes_1941.html


    As were talking of air raids. Do you defend the Red Air Force's bombing of Helsinki?
     
  10. This time they are publicly admitting this.

     
  11. Frankly speaking I'm unaware about them. Anyway a war is a war. If you begin a war and tries to capture territories that are not yours then you should be prepared that your own capital could be bombed. Finland had a possiblity to capitulate after Stalingrad. The result of the war was predictable in 1943. In this case many lives would be saved.

    Returning to the theme of the thread we even can't compare Finland with Palestinians.