British Army urban legends - like Stalwart to see footy

#81
Incidentally, we had a couple of guys who decided to pinch a Chieftain one night in York Kaserne, Muenster. It was heard starting up and several members of the guard managed to get down there in time to see it rumbling out of the hangars. Obviously there was nothing they could do to stop it so they just stood to one side. It must have been fitted with a 650bhp pack because it had done no more than 100 yards when there was a clang as a piston flew out the top of the block and hit the T piece.
Amazing. I remember the 1978 rear party when 2RTR tried the same thing. I think they were in lurrv with the Chinese eyes. They did have slightly more success with another vehicle.
2RTR did quite a raid the night before Cambrai day same year using yellow paint around Brigade stables, Brigadier's car and a few other bits and bobs. RMPs let the dogs loose in D Sqn block - wee P... T..... woke to one slavering on top of him in his scratch.
 
#82
Myth or fact?

Royal Marines (?42 Commando) on tour in Belfast caught a bloke trying to rape a girl who was ID'd as the daughter of someone important in the IRA. Daughter escorted to the local drinking palace where she was handed over. Allegedly led to a ceasefire on the RMs until end of tour.

Always wondered about this one.
 
#83
Myth or fact?

Royal Marines (?42 Commando) on tour in Belfast caught a bloke trying to rape a girl who was ID'd as the daughter of someone important in the IRA. Daughter escorted to the local drinking palace where she was handed over. Allegedly led to a ceasefire on the RMs until end of tour.

Always wondered about this one.
Not the mid 80's RM tour when the lads got in deep shit for handing out Unit calling cards with "The Boys Are Back In Town" then?
 
#84
Incidentally, we had a couple of guys who decided to pinch a Chieftain one night in York Kaserne, Muenster. It was heard starting up and several members of the guard managed to get down there in time to see it rumbling out of the hangars. Obviously there was nothing they could do to stop it so they just stood to one side. It must have been fitted with a 650bhp pack because it had done no more than 100 yards when there was a clang as a piston flew out the top of the block and hit the T piece.

Nor was that the end of their exploits. Cutting a long story very short they managed to escape from our nick and went on the run. I was on the guard that was taking over that day and was sent back with others to hand in my smg and get a pick helve and we went looking for them. One had an MQ and as we pulled up outside it in a 1/4 Rover the two of them sprang out the back door, still in their jail coveralls and started hopping the low wire fences between all the houses. They'd been absent for about three hours at this point but hadn't bothered to change into civvies or try to make a run for it. They'd just sat in the bloke's house having tea and toast.

We caught them ok and had a laugh with them before returning them to the nick. I can't remember what they got for the whole incident but Collie seems to be obvious.
Ha! I remember that! I thought they made it as far as the main gate as I can recall the barrier being trashed for a week or so. I'll ask my old man what happened to them - he was 2ic at the time.
 

AlienFTM

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#85
Not true. The charge sheet can read "did commit murder on or about midnight" etc, etc.
From my 88 wasted days at CHI (1975), it would be "did commit murder about midnight". Only "about" because any attempt to specify a time more accurately left the defence the change to argue that it was a minute earlier or later because a watch was wrong, whereas "or" implied you were not sure so how could your evidence be reliable?

Royal Marines on Lillehammer Ski-Jump?

Any truth in the story I heard in the early nineties that a couple of Royal Marines killed themselves going down the Lillehammer ski jump on tea-trays nicked from the local Noggy Barracks?
I heard this wrt to Oberstdorf in 1978 and the story was antediluvian then.

Amazing. I remember the 1978 rear party when 2RTR tried the same thing. I think they were in lurrv with the Chinese eyes.
2RTR? Chinese Eyes? 1978? Shirley Chinese Eyes belonged to 4RTR from about the end of the Great War until amalgamation with 1RTR about 1992? As evidenced by the Chinese Eye NAAFI Club at Catterick after 4RTR had gone, to be replaced as RAC Training Regiment by the Skins.
 
#86
Amazing. I remember the 1978 rear party when 2RTR tried the same thing. I think they were in lurrv with the Chinese eyes. They did have slightly more success with another vehicle.
2RTR did quite a raid the night before Cambrai day same year using yellow paint around Brigade stables, Brigadier's car and a few other bits and bobs. RMPs let the dogs loose in D Sqn block - wee P... T..... woke to one slavering on top of him in his scratch.

That happened in 1973/4 as well when we upset the Welsh Guards who were in Waterloo Barracks, behind Swinton Barracks, and we managed to break into their hangars and paint their 432s Saffron (remember there was no yellow in 2 RTR).

A year or so prior to that when 1 Gren Gds were in Buller Barracks, and 1 Scots Gds were in Waterloo Barracks, we had a Grenadier called Nutty Slack in our Guardroom for some offence or other and he was doing fatigues in the Officers Mess one night when he did a runner, making it back to his barracks where he subsequently managed to break in and nick one of his Company's 432s. He then went for a drive around the Loddenheide complex (if you recall we could drive between the three barracks without going onto the main road) smashing into cars and any other objects that got in his way. All three guardrooms turned out to chase him (in our case - not a hope in hell of catching him in Chieftain Mk 2), but the Jock Guards, literally sitting atop one of their 432s, armed themselves with Pick helves, liberally decorated with 6 inch nails, and eventually managed to bring him to a halt with nothing more than a sore head and a few holes in his body to show for it.

PS: As I recall, 2 RTR has never had a D Sqn - we used the original Squadron names from the First World War ie: Ajax, Badger, Cyclops, Huntsman (the Command and Support Sqn) and Nero (the Admin Sqn)
 
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BratMedic

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#87
In 1971 I was in Nicosia UNFICYP and the Force Reserve was 10/11th Hussars. Apparently they had an anonymous looney, only known by his signature left behind after doing unspeakable things like shitting in the adj's in tray, vomiting over the post, pissing in bloke's boots while they were asleep. ZIGMAR was his nom de plume. Can anybody else shed any light on this?
 
#88
I heard it was two lads in an MFO box. This would have been on one of my earlier Snow Queens '77 or '78.

But like most myths, there is probably a small element of truth in there somewhere. It's not a great leap of imagination to see at least an attempt being made. :)
Or maybe the two Jocks on beer crates. Surprised there's any of us left.
 

AlienFTM

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#89
In 1971 I was in Nicosia UNFICYP and the Force Reserve was 10/11th Hussars. Apparently they had an anonymous looney, only known by his signature left behind after doing unspeakable things like shitting in the adj's in tray, vomiting over the post, pissing in bloke's boots while they were asleep. ZIGMAR was his nom de plume. Can anybody else shed any light on this?
I do know that when B Sqn 15/19H handed over UNFICYP Force Reserve Squadron to A Sqn 15/19H, we "signed" every obscure place we could find. A couple of corporals joined the tour late because they'd been on Scorpion Commander courses cos we were retraining from MBT. Every time they found something interesting about the tour (which, given that the camp had been a refugee camp during the recent war of 74 and was generally a shithole), they'd remark, "It's good here, innit?"

That's how we signed everything - under the bog seats, walls behind beds, etc. A few years later this catchphrase was picked up by BFBS radio and a programme of this name came to pass. I heard all sorts of theories as to where the phrase originated, but none pre-dated Nicosia, autumn 1976.
 
#90
Or maybe the two Jocks on beer crates. Surprised there's any of us left.
I suspect this one is somewhat older than we think. I remember my Dad telling me the same story about the Winterberg ski jump and this would have been back in the 1960s and I am sure he was only retelling an old story as well.

Same as the number of people who have tried to swim across the Rhine in Koln/Duesseldorf when pissed out of their minds and either drowned, disappeared or got run over by a barge.
 
#91
One of our sqns (B i think) decided to spring one of our guys from the 25 Dropshort's nick.With a cheiftain.They didn't half shit them selfs when 60 ton of dermatites turn up outside the nick.
 
#92
Not the mid 80's RM tour when the lads got in deep shit for handing out Unit calling cards with "The Boys Are Back In Town" then?
My brother was on that tour (although I thought it was early 80's). He was on the advance party as he was a brick commander. Which is why they were handing out the cards to cheer up the locals before 42cdo took over. Think it was either FKL or XMG.
 
#93
My bold:

1970's - 80's. This was a weekly occurrence at most of the units I was posted at. I am sure it was in most others as well.

No myths to see here mate. :)
but plenty of meths was consumed that lunchtime.....
 
#94
Ha! I remember that! I thought they made it as far as the main gate as I can recall the barrier being trashed for a week or so. I'll ask my old man what happened to them - he was 2ic at the time.
As I remember it they got no further than about 100 yards from B Sqn hangars. Was your old man our 2 i/c? For the life of me I can't remember who that would have been although I'm pretty sure the Colonel at the time was Col Barron.

I remember the jail breakout better to be honest as I was coming on duty that morning. The story about them sawing the bars through became a bit of a regimental legend. Of course they didn't do the bulk of the work, it was the two guys from the RA who'd been there previously and were being held for murdering a civvy nightwatchman in a supermarket. They were able to tell our incoming friends were the hacksaw blade was hidden in the cell.
 
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#95
That happened in 1973/4 as well when we upset the Welsh Guards who were in Waterloo Barracks, behind Swinton Barracks, and we managed to break into their hangars and paint their 432s Saffron (remember there was no yellow in 2 RTR).

A year or so prior to that when 1 Gren Gds were in Buller Barracks, and 1 Scots Gds were in Waterloo Barracks, we had a Grenadier called Nutty Slack in our Guardroom for some offence or other and he was doing fatigues in the Officers Mess one night when he did a runner, making it back to his barracks where he subsequently managed to break in and nick one of his Company's 432s. He then went for a drive around the Loddenheide complex (if you recall we could drive between the three barracks without going onto the main road) smashing into cars and any other objects that got in his way. All three guardrooms turned out to chase him (in our case - not a hope in hell of catching him in Chieftain Mk 2), but the Jock Guards, literally sitting atop one of their 432s, armed themselves with Pick helves, liberally decorated with 6 inch nails, and eventually managed to bring him to a halt with nothing more than a sore head and a few holes in his body to show for it.

PS: As I recall, 2 RTR has never had a D Sqn - we used the original Squadron names from the First World War ie: Ajax, Badger, Cyclops, Huntsman (the Command and Support Sqn) and Nero (the Admin Sqn)

I was 4RTR in York Barracks at the time :) We were Oxford Blue but we always referred to 2RTR's colour as yellow......
 
#96
As I remember it they got no further than about 100 yards from B Sqn hangars. Was your old man our 2 i/c? For the life of me I can't remember who that would have been although I'm pretty sure the Colonel at the time was Col Barron.

I remember the jail breakout better to be honest as I was coming on duty that morning. The story about them sawing the bars through became a bit of a regimental legend. Of course they didn't do the bulk of the work, it was the two guys from the RA who'd been there previously and were being held for murdering a civvy nightwatchman in a supermarket. They were able to tell our incoming friends were the hacksaw blade was hidden in the cell.
PM sent!
 
#98
Yeh, we had some bod who drove a 432, yeh he, he, right, get this, drove it all the way from Normandy Bks to Stapelager without, now get this, without breakin down!!!!!!

You just could nt make it up!!







































OK, I admit, I made this up.
 
#99
Yeh, we had some bod who drove a 432, yeh he, he, right, get this, drove it all the way from Normandy Bks to Stapelager without, now get this, without breakin down!!!!!!

You just could nt make it up!!



OK, I admit, I made this up.
Waterloo Barracks to the Dorbahn Training Area was about our feckin limit.
 

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