British army rangers?

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Just wondering if there's an equivalent in the Brit army to the US army rangers?
 
#2
Yes, its called 'The British Army'
 
#4
#####Well there used to be the Irish Rangers, but they've changed their name!:eye:

I think they're called the Green Berets now!
 
#6
Assuming this isn't a trolling session, SFSG is probably as close as we get. The fun will start when the argument begins about "who is the best" with the majority of the input coming from people who have no clue what either of them actually do and how they are selected (I include myself in the not much clue, as opposed to, no clue, group)
 
#8
The US Rangers were trained by the Commandos when first formed in WW2 so you could say a RM Cdo unit or a PARA Battalion would be the equivilant.

I'd say any British infantry unit would give them a run for their money though.
 
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I'd say regular ranger units are probably equivalent to Infantry battalions?
We have an AI in cadets that was ex US Airborne Rangers, think that probably equates to the Paras, as he called himself "special forces"
Evidently, the Paras aren't special forces, but the definition may have been somewhat distorted between countries...
 
#12
I'd say any British infantry unit would give them a run for their money though.
I'd like to think that too, but in all honesty, I doubt it - based on my ill-informed armchair observations on men's TV channels of their selection and training it looks pretty damn tough to get through the selection - almost sadistic. Not sure how the continuation training compares to, say The Parachute Regt., but I'd guess its similar.

I can remember a certain regular inf battalion at BATUS being deemed unfit to use warrior by their CO and reduced to fighting pairs for a week, then fireteams, etc, all the way to battalion attacks, before finally being allowed to proceed with their mechanised training, I can't imagine a 'proper' US Ranger unit (as opposed to the giys who earn the flash then return to their parent unit) having to do this kind of remedial training.

I'll wager there are people on here with first-hand experience of both - perhaps they can shed some light?
 
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#13
I'd say regular ranger units are probably equivalent to Infantry battalions?
We have an AI in cadets that was ex US Airborne Rangers, think that probably equates to the Paras, as he called himself "special forces"
Evidently, the Paras aren't special forces, but the definition may have been somewhat distorted between countries...
Seriously? Be quiet!
 
#16
Cheers, didn't know that. But then again, where would the americans be without us?
Guess I better prepare for the trolling!
The US Rangers were trained by the Commandos when first formed in WW2 so you could say a RM Cdo unit or a PARA Battalion would be the equivilant.

I'd say any British infantry unit would give them a run for their money though.
 
#17
Question should be is "What are US Army Rangers?" then decide if we have equivalent, I am led to believe that US Rangers in WW2 were assault pioneers/shock troops, and indeed were trained by British Commandos.
As every British Infantry Battalion has a Pioneer Platoon (least they used to) then it's hard to determine if they are that "Special", specialised maybe.
 
#18
Are RAF Regiment in SF then? Are they any good?
Dunno, I never met any to talk to or observe at work, but going by posts on ARRSE, you'd be forgiven for thinking they are like MPGS after being given £1000 of silvermans vouchers to buy goggles, NI Gloves, Danners and Magnums.
Does that help?
Personally I always think its a bit odd - like they want to be soldiers, so why not join an Infantry Regiment - maybe a RAF Regiment chappie could tell us what the advantage is, as they see it. (I'm not trying to wind 'em up - I really want to know).
 
#19
I realise you are a cadet and so I don't want to appear to be snotty, but why do you think that?
Well if you compare forces, it would appear that the length of training in (some) regular American infantry battalions appears less than regular British infrantry battalions... So, to that end (without considering quality of training) you would assume that British infantry battalions to be of a higher grade. Furthermore, some "elite" regiments, such as the green jackets etc. (if you consider them elite) should be then of a higher quality still? So with this in mind and with normal ranger battalions considered of a "higher quality" than normal infantry, I made the conclusion that should/could be equivalents.
 
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