British and Afghan troops launch dawn raid in Helmand

#2
The weapons & mags look very old & worse for wear.
 
#3
Bollocks!
The MOD provides only the finest equipment that money can buy. It must be true, more than one Secretary of Defence has told us so!
 
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The insurgents believed their HQ was safe because they were on the other side of a canal?
 
#6
Yeah Allah had put up a force feild over the canal. Or so they were told.
 
#7
Bollocks!
The MOD provides only the finest equipment that money can buy. It must be true, more than one Secretary of Defence has told us so!
I think batfink was referring to the captured weapons. I can see where you're coming from, though.
 
#9
Yes was referring to the captured weapons. If they had a decent cache surely they would show them to emphasize the success of the raid.

Obviously any explosives, IED parts< Weapons ect taken out of the hands of the Insurgents can only be a good thing, but I think they are trying to make it look more successful than it was.
 

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It's good to see that we are winning in Helmand. We've been there since 2006, so it's about time really. It's longer than it took us to defeat the Kaiser, Hitler, and Hirohito, so we bloody well should have a result by now.

Perhaps though we should have concentrated a bit more on producing a local and national government system that is not so institutionally corrupt that the locals still accept the Taliban as a better alternative? Just a thought...
 
#13
Yeah Allah had put up a force feild over the canal. Or so they were told.
So the Emperor Mong afflicts the Taliban as well?!... Amazing!


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It's good to see that we are winning in Helmand. We've been there since 2006, so it's about time really. It's longer than it took us to defeat the Kaiser, Hitler, and Hirohito, so we bloody well should have a result by now.

Perhaps though we should have concentrated a bit more on producing a local and national government system that is not so institutionally corrupt that the locals still accept the Taliban as a better alternative? Just a thought...
I thought the only governments Afghans do are corrupt and unreformable or hard line Islamic, and unreformable?
My great-great uncle fought there and probably thought the place wasn't worth fighting over.
 
#15
It's good to see that we are winning in Helmand. We've been there since 2006, so it's about time really. It's longer than it took us to defeat the Kaiser, Hitler, and Hirohito, so we bloody well should have a result by now.

Perhaps though we should have concentrated a bit more on producing a local and national government system that is not so institutionally corrupt that the locals still accept the Taliban as a better alternative? Just a thought...
Could have set the Generals some goals, funded them and let them crack on instead of micro political management. Bit retro but, hey, worked before.
 
#16
Producing a non- corrupt government system? In Afghanistan? Or in fact anywhere that is not a mature western liberal democracy?

Pissing in the wind.

We should have removed AQ - which was done in the first few months - paid a few warlords to keep a lid on it (here's 10 million dollars a year. If AQ turn up, kill them. If you, can't tell us and our drones/aircraft/SF will kill them. If we find out that you're not telling us we'll stop your money while we look for you to kill you.)

This war was never about spreading democracy, increasing literacy, countering narcotics, improving female rights or making countering corruption. Yet somehow we got bogged down with all if this hand wringing shit.
 

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