Britian to send Helicopters in support to French against Isil in Africa

[rampant]

At least he's lending us the Bayeaux tapestry for a while ...
Learnt 2 things about it this morning
1 ) It was actually made in Canterbury
2 ) The arrow in Harald's eye was added in the Victorian era .
Mind you , that was from the BBC , so it's probably lies , distortions and simply private opinions .

Both correct, remember learning that as a kid in the 80s. When they examined the tapestry during restoration they found the Victorian stitching avoided the original holes in the fabric. It's generally taken now that Harold is actually the bloke being cut down with swords

 

[irlsgt]

RAF: biggest C-17 and CH-47 fleet outside the USAF.

And @Magic_Mushroom
With 1 Armd Inf Battlegroup (and afaik 1 Strike, 1 Air Aslt and possibly 1 Cdo Battlegroup).

You will soon lose the ability to contribute more than a mixed (of the above) Bde on an enduring op

 

[Himmler74]

And @Magic_Mushroom
With 1 Armd Inf Battlegroup (and afaik 1 Strike, 1 Air Aslt and possibly 1 Cdo Battlegroup).

You will soon lose the ability to contribute more than a mixed (of the above) Bde on an enduring op

What can the Irish army provide

 

[Magic_Mushroom]

And @Magic_Mushroom
With 1 Armd Inf Battlegroup (and afaik 1 Strike, 1 Air Aslt and possibly 1 Cdo Battlegroup).

You will soon lose the ability to contribute more than a mixed (of the above) Bde on an enduring op

Agreed, but this is still greater than many NATO nations.

For those that can exceed that on ops (eg France and Germany), none have the broader capability mix the UK enjoys which is why many of them rely on us for key capabilities, enablers and real estate. For instance, the French deployed CdG to the Eastern Med on anti-Daesh ops amid much fanfare in late 2015. What was less well acknowledged was their reliance upon RAF AAR to operate in Syria and Iraq and their regular employment of Cyprus.

Swings and roundabouts.

Regards,
MM

 

[Archibald_gruffnut]

This is another example of France and Britain trying to get closer ties post-Brexit.
Supporting the French military
Sharing more security info
France letting Britain display the Bayeux Tapestry for the first time since it was made (Williams defeat of our 'arold in 1066).

It is of my opinion that the French are papping themselves that we will (post-Brexit) invade Europe and give them all a damn good spanking (using France as the landing area, again). And so they are trying to kiss our ar.......

 

[Le_addeur_noir]

The Indians have more C-17s than us (10) and the RAAF have the same number (8 ).

Regards,
MM

MM,

The Indians have signed for the last white tail C-17 built, so should take delivery of their 11th C-17A (CB8011) for 81 Sqn at Hindon AFS, not far from Dehli in the coming months.

 

[Magic_Mushroom]

MM,

The Indians have signed for the last white tail C-17 built, so should take delivery of their 11th C-17A (CB8011) for 81 Sqn at Hindon AFS, not far from Dehli in the coming months.

Clever chaps!

Regards,
MM

 

[beefer]

Hence my wondering at its relevance to a post about civvy Eurocopters falling into the sea...

Their EC225s have done that more than once.

As my avatar demonstrates...

 

[ches]

Agreed, but this is still greater than many NATO nations.

For those that can exceed that on ops (eg France and Germany), none have the broader capability mix the UK enjoys which is why many of them rely on us for key capabilities, enablers and real estate. For instance, the French deployed CdG to the Eastern Med on anti-Daesh ops amid much fanfare in late 2015. What was less well acknowledged was their reliance upon RAF AAR to operate in Syria and Iraq and their regular employment of Cyprus.

Swings and roundabouts.

Regards,
MM

You ain't bloody wrong, I was farting around in the Limassol area at the time & there were various flying things of decent size flying into Akroutiri most days sporting tri-colours. A lot of bigger stuff humping in kit that was then loaded onto their helis which buggered off seawards no doubt taking crates of champers out to the CdG.

 

[irlsgt]

What can the Irish army provide

Significantly less but we are spending significantly less and not claiming to be a world player

I’m not Brit bashing the UK needs this capabilities

 

[oldsoak]

Imho, it's a good thing for us.
We can either get in with French and keep some hard won experience fresh and perhaps learn more , or let it all wither on the vine and loose it when some bean counter wants to get rid of capabilities we haven't exercised in a while. The French have a lot of experience in getting jobs done in places like Mali and are a lot more pragmatic and punchy than some of NATO.

 

[Graculus]

Imho, it's a good thing for us.
We can either get in with French and keep some hard won experience fresh and perhaps learn more , or let it all wither on the vine and loose it when some bean counter wants to get rid of capabilities we haven't exercised in a while. The French have a lot of experience in getting jobs done in places like Mali and are a lot more pragmatic and punchy than some of NATO.

We need to do it. To show that we're still relevant.

 

[Mech_Eng]

We've just sold them our now retired Lynx fleet. Each is painted black and postmarked Africa.

 

[Dan Gleebles]

Significantly less but we aren’t spending significantly less and not claiming to be a world player

I’m not Brit bashing the UK needs this capabilities

If the Irish capability is significantly less, but they aren't spending significantly less, then something is very wrong.

 

[AfghanAndy]

We need to do it. To show that we're still relevant.

Not necessarily 'still relevant.' Common interests.

The uk has been fortunate that not too many of its former colony's /AI have religious nutters.

It's only right to help but fortunately it's being done the correct way with the media at arms length.

 

[rampant]

Clever chaps!

Regards,
MM

Saw them all lined up on a field I flew into in India last month. Was very jealous

 

[redshift]

It's all about logistics , at the end of the day. If you want to fight a meaningful battle. It pretty much always comes down to that.....no matter how many shiny weapons you have. Unless you go Nuclear.

 

[Himmler74]

Significantly less but we aren’t spending significantly less and not claiming to be a world player

I’m not Brit bashing the UK needs this capabilities

Why?

 

[diverman]

Why can’t they borrow Hun CH-53’s?

If they are like the rest of the German armed forces, they'd be lucky to get into the air.

 

[diverman]

I stand corrected.

(Although I expect the number of serviceable IndAF C-17's will decline rapidly)

Have got a toilet on board or do they just drop the tailgate when required.