Britain's Biggest Warship - 3 Part TV Series

Great program with good perspective into the multi purpose roles the carrier/s do/will be doing for the UK as they deploy.

Vice Admiral Kidd would seem to be extremely well prepared for his new post, and these additions to the Royal Navy certainly add a new credibility to the special relationship.
 

Yokel

LE
@Magic_Mushroom

Here is a picture of an F-35B during ship landing trials - aboard the USS Wasp I think:



Here is a picture of USS Wasp with AV-8B+s embarked. Note the darkened patches:



I wonder if looking a ships' flight decks and trying to work out what had been launching and recovering could count as a branch of IMINT?

Vertical landing means the deck gets the full blast from the engine, Short Take Off means the deck gets a coating (nozzle(s) point down and after) as the jet proceeds from aft to fore...
 
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Kyd, not Kidd.

Although, at least you’re not the Officer who wrote a Visit TM and sent it to the Fleet Commander’s Outer Office spelling it Kidd.

I mean, that’d be really embarrassing...
 
Kyd, not Kidd.

Although, at least you’re not the Officer who wrote a Visit TM and sent it to the Fleet Commander’s Outer Office spelling it Kidd.

I mean, that’d be really embarrassing...
He's fooling nobody. When the rich merchantmen start disappearing we'll know where to look.
 
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I was trying to clean-up my hard drive, and found that I had "captured" the following from a video!! :)

I don't know how I did it, and doubt it will happen again :( .

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Although, at least you’re not the Officer who wrote a Visit TM and sent it to the Fleet Commander’s Outer Office spelling it Kidd.

I mean, that’d be really embarrassing...
I wonder which idiot that could have been..........
 
I would like to see a programme about the development of the carrier from the need to launch fighters from ships during the First World War and early experiments and operations, through the Second World War and things like escorts carriers, and then into the jet age, with helicopters coming along and then V/STOL aircraft.

Well you can piece together the first two parts of that desire with a couple of BBC documentaries.

The first is by David Hayman called 'Captain Jack and the Furious Few'

the second is the bio of Winkle Brown called Britain's Greatest Pilot.

Sadly both are offline at the moment, but well worth keeping an eye out for.
 
...Vertical landing means the deck gets the full blast from the engine, Short Take Off means the deck gets a coating (nozzle(s) point down and after) as the jey proceeds from aft to fore...
Obviously.

The difference however is that whereas the AV-8B can land anywhere on a deck, the F-35 requires dedicated pads.

The original plan was that both the QEC would have 4 pads but this was reduced to 2 due to cost. When the RAF and FAA pointed out that this would not allow the required sortie generation rate, a third was added.

Regards,
MM
 

Yokel

LE
I thought that the Sea Harrier/Harrier generally landed on a specific spot because of the need for the Pilot to see the the HIHAT landing aid that aided him to find the right place to go into a hover.
 
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I thought that the Sea Harrier/Harrier generally landed on a specific spot because of the need for the Pilot to see the landing aids - HIHAT or something that aided him to find the right place to go into a hover.
Dunno what they used on carriers but GR3/4/7/8 when landing on pads out in the field had dayglow orange marker pads on each corner. I think we placed them at 125 paces and 175 paces from the centre of the pad. Obviously not enough room on a ship.
 
Obviously.

The difference however is that whereas the AV-8B can land anywhere on a deck, the F-35 requires dedicated pads.

The original plan was that both the QEC would have 4 pads but this was reduced to 2 due to cost. When the RAF and FAA pointed out that this would not allow the required sortie generation rate, a third was added.

Regards,
MM

Are the "pads" something that can be added later or only when the flight deck was built?
 
I thought that the Sea Harrier/Harrier generally landed on a specific spot because of the need for the Pilot to see the landing aids - HIHAT or something that aided him to find the right place to go into a hover.
They did.

But a landing spot is different to a a landing spot which needs a thermal pad.

I’m sure they’ll work fine. But it’s interesting how much those on the QE have discoloured so quickly.

Are the "pads" something that can be added later or only when the flight deck was built?
@Not a Boffin is better qualified to comment but I assume that metal would need to be cut.

Regards,
MM
 

Yokel

LE
Dunno what they used on carriers but GR3/4/7/8 when landing on pads out in the field had dayglow orange marker pads on each corner. I think we placed them at 125 paces and 175 paces from the centre of the pad. Obviously not enough room on a ship.
The CVS had a system called HIHAT that allowed the Pilot to line up exactly before going into a hover and moving the jet over the deck for landing. The QEC has a HIHAT system for the same purpose.
 
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Yokel

LE
I would love to see a programme comparing the new carriers with the early ones like HMS Furious (which launched operational sorties in World War One), then developments in World War Two, then the advent of the jet and the helicopter, and going STOVL.

The themes of getting the aircraft off the front at the right speed and right wind over deck, and having the right wind for recovery, and getting to aircraft landing in the the right place, on a deck moving with the motions of the sea, would be a constant theme.

Ideally the Mathematical and Physics bits would vmbe presented by someone like Dr Hannah Fry, ideally in a swimsuit and using a model carrier in a swimming pool.

Lastly I wonder can I make a business out of carrier inspired things like parking aids...
 

wafubustard

War Hero
It would be even nicer if they could land a RNHF Swordfish on-board! The RN REALLY have missed a trick there!

Regards,
MM
I did suggest that to Wings at one stage and was told to keep quiet and not to give anyone any ideas.

Now if it was an idea from the Good Ideas Club it would have happened by now.
 

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