Britain to be offered opt-out on EU justice

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by oldbaldy, May 16, 2007.

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  1. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
    1. Battlefield Tours

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/036d3f04-0320-11dc-a023-000b5df10621.html

     
  2. Whooppee..!

    So, ten minutes after the British public reluctantly sign up to a "moderate" EU Constitution, the vetoes and opt-outs get cancelled, and we're committed to the Fourth Reich....
     
  3. Funnily enough the UK already refuses to accept certain lumps of EU Law.
    For example the EU Convention on Human Rights say you cant force a confession out of anybody, UK Law allows just that to happen.
    The reason you are no longer have the right to remain silent? So you cant avoid fines from a Gatso!
    If there is a method in the bits we accept and those we don't I'm damned if I can see it.
     
  4. Ermmm..didn't we win the war?
     
  5. Pretty simple really. Which bits mean more dosh to the exchequer or means the government can give more dosh to their friends?
     
  6. There is currently a case before the EctHR that should settle this once and for all.

    Whilst the UK Govt are not 'obliged' to strictly enforce rulings from this court they are by way of treaty obligation required to take note and accomodate them as best as they can.

    Whilst we await the ruling from Strasbourg (it was supposed to be delivered before Easter) there are also cases pending in the High Court in London awaiting the decision from Strasbourg.

    A google on O'Halloran (EctHR Case) and Burgess-James (High Court Appeal Case) should throw more light on the arguments or look at the link below.

    Pepipoo
     
  7. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Rumour has it (and this would be the right place to further it) that Mr Bliar et al are guilty of treason.

    Why are they guilty of treason? Well, how about giving up nearly 1,000 years of sovereignty without the permission of the British people.

    By denying us the right to vote on such a huge issue, he is in effect guilty of treason. Why have hundreds of thousands of British and Commonwealth soldiers and civilians been sent to their deaths to defend our shores and maintain our independence if the PM is going to give it away later on without even asking us?
     

  8. What 'Biped' said.... Agree.