Britain not broken says Brown

#1
BBC Link

Gordon Brown has dismissed the idea of a broken society in Britain saying the country was "decent and compassionate".

The prime minister was speaking at the opening day of the Edinburgh Book Festival - where he was being interviewed by crime writer Ian Rankin.

In a wide-ranging discussion, he spoke about domestic and global problems as well as his own work as an author.

Along with political works Mr Brown has written a book called Courage about great figures such as Nelson Mandela.

The prime minister, who was a surprise guest at the festival, told the audience there: "I don't think the British people have ever been broken by anything or anyone.

If people see people doing great things, then these are role models for young people
Gordon Brown

"I feel there is so much good being done in different parts of our country.

"I think Britain is basically a decent, compassionate society and most people want to see things change for the better."

Mr Brown highlighted knife crime as "the biggest problem at the moment" in some cities.

But he said the government alone could not tackle it, saying the community also had a role to play in changing the culture to make carrying knives unacceptable.

Mr Brown said he had written Courage: Eight Portraits, which is about famous role models, to encourage more people to follow their example.

He said: "You celebrate them and you create more as a result of that. If people see people doing great things, then these are role models for young people."

Nice to see one eye is on the same planet as the rest of us :roll:
 
#2
Mr Brown highlighted knife crime as "the biggest problem at the moment" in some cities.
But he said the government alone could not tackle it, saying the community also had a role to play in changing the culture to make carrying knives unacceptable.
Ahh yes, the same community which when it does try to change the culture, can be kicked to death, arrested by the Police, or thrown to the wolves. Sorry Broon, your in charge, you have the power not I.

The biggest problem is knives now then, not drugs, unemployment, soaring bills, stealth taxes, immigration.
 
#3
Baldrick66 said:
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"I think Britain is basically a decent, compassionate society and most people want to see things change for the better."
Yes - and we might get that change for the better at the next General Election. He can make his greatest contribution to achieving that aspiration by falling on his sword and going to the country at the earliest opportunity.
 
#7
We're definately NOT compassionate towards YOU, Broon. And if this country is'nt broken, it's not for the lack of trying by you and the rest of Zanu-Labour. :evil:
 
#8
I think he is correct in so far as British society is not broken. I don't think it is. Badly damaged mind you. As long as he lives in an environment where he is isolated from society he can't really judge though.

He is still reacting in typical New Labour fashion WRT knife crime. All most every problem seems to be approached with either BAN, TAX or SPIN (not necessarily an all exclusive OR) . Having knives isn't the problem, it is the willingness to stick them into other people. Almost every boy had a knife when I was a kid. We just tended not to stab each other with them.

I think he also right that most of Britain is a decent society. More and more areas do seem to be getting feral though and there is precious little being done about it. When decent citizens are afraid to uphold the law because they think the police are likely to persecute them in favour of scrotes we are on the wrong path.
 
#9
Perturbed said:
When decent citizens are afraid to uphold the law because they think the police are likely to persecute them in favour of scrotes we are on the wrong path.
THAT is the biggest problem in GB.

The media and Broon have siezed on knife crime, in reality it should be a lot further down on the list of things the government has got to worry about at this precise moment.
 

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#12
Perturbed said:
. Almost every boy had a knife when I was a kid. We just tended not to stab each other with them.
Thats the truth that Broon and his ilk seem to ignore
Knives where all over when I was a boy (and I'm only 38!!) we had swiss army knives,sheath knives and not once did I try and stab anyone

Like wise the 'broken home society' that they lay the blame at I know many people from single parent families and not once did they replace the father figure with a Mac - 10 or an Uzi

Then again most single mothers worked at the time and the kids stood on there own two feet at a younger age - nothing was handed to us if you wanted something you had to earn it

We are now on a third generation who nothing exept benifits and they have no respect for any one or anything

If they do get done for something they hold there hand out and the DSS pays any fine for them and off they go back to their council house to start over again

Broon and these people have created this mess and are now trying to convince us nothing is wrong

The honest hard working folk of this country are sick of living in a police state which penalises honesty and hard work yet lets the feckless and thug element walk around doing what they want

Brown needs to go as soon as possible but it dosen't really matter we are to deep in it now to turn it around
 
#13
Is Brown on palnet liabour, not planet earth!

Stilts
 
#14
the_boy_syrup said:
Perturbed said:
. Almost every boy had a knife when I was a kid. We just tended not to stab each other with them.
Thats the truth that Broon and his ilk seem to ignore
Knives where all over when I was a boy (and I'm only 38!!) we had swiss army knives,sheath knives and not once did I try and stab anyone...
Snipped for brevity but I do agree with everything you said

Banning knives without tackling the root cause of the problem will just have the violent lunatics use alternate weapons (if they take any notice of the ban). Possibly bottles, lumps of wood, metal bars etc. It is the attitude that it is OK to kill people that needs to be sorted out.

Gun crime is a good case point. Reaction to a shooting in a school? Handguns banned. Who did that affect? Only the law abiding. Has gun crime disappeared or even reduced because of that ban?
 
#15
Perturbed said:
the_boy_syrup said:
Perturbed said:
. Almost every boy had a knife when I was a kid. We just tended not to stab each other with them.
Thats the truth that Broon and his ilk seem to ignore
Knives where all over when I was a boy (and I'm only 38!!) we had swiss army knives,sheath knives and not once did I try and stab anyone...
Snipped for brevity but I do agree with everything you said

Banning knives without tackling the root cause of the problem will just have the violent lunatics use alternate weapons (if they take any notice of the ban). Possibly bottles, lumps of wood, metal bars etc. It is the attitude that it is OK to kill people that needs to be sorted out.

Gun crime is a good case point. Reaction to a shooting in a school? Handguns banned. Who did that affect? Only the law abiding. Has gun crime disappeared or even reduced because of that ban?
Agree with the points. Whilst I don't see Britain as "broken" it all comes down to your own definitions - compared to environments / societies that we operate, it is easy to make the soundbite. On the other hand, there are some areas of British Society that are fast heading back to the dark ages.

The career politician and now with added spin - is his Home Secretary still wearing body armour when going out on those mean streets?

Have owned and used various knives since childhood, never stabbed anyone, although bumping into Brown on a dark night, probably would have me doing time - if there were any witnesses. :)

Oh, and only stabbed once!
 
#16
If it´s not broke, don´t fix it. So repeal all those new laws for a start.
 
#18
As the old saying goes "Well he would say that, wouldn't he?"

He is the uber cnut.
 
#19
Its not as if he doesnt live in the same city as 20+ of our teenagers have been murdered in knife/gun crime so far this year.

Despite lots of words spoken about easing the paperwork burden on police no action has been taken, nor will it be.

The one eyed C*nt is hell bent on destroying Britain before he leaves office, the latest victim is the remnants of the housing market, destroyed by one of Darling's special communications advisors announcing a stamp duty tax break. Darling is now nowhere to be found.

Thats just the same day as he announced another £3Bn for Northern Wreck, trying to convince us he was going to take an equivalent amount in shares from Northern Wreck, well FFS we own 100% of a completely failed and bankrupt bank, why do we need another £3Bn pounds worth of shares in something thats worthless! This was a soundbite to ensure that the common man thinks we get something in return for our hard earned cash being spent on something that should be under liquidation sale.

Society may not be completely broken yet, but Britain almost certainly is broke.
 
#20
Perturbed, quite agree with the 'all had knives but no one killed' kind of line - as ever they pick up on the tool used in the murder not the desire and apparent need to carry it out. Prince Phillip was bang on (er, no pun...) with his Dublane baseball bats, shame everyone was too busy taking offence to catch his logic.

I personnaly find it incredible that this utter cnut can go on about compassion (and for that matter courage) in our society when he has shown nothing of the sort beyond cheap words with respect to the intensity of ops and paucity of funding, not to mention the shenannigans over compensation for the wounded.

The only compassion he seems to know is that for the poor long-suffering and under ZanuLabour, growing section of our society who have to put up with state handouts because of some apparent inbred inability to raise a finger to help themselves. Giving cash to people who are entirely able to work but can't be arrsed without ensuring you get something in return is not compassionate, its stupid and unjust. :x

There is still a core of decent Britons but it is the nature of such things that if you fail to support the good then evil will enevitably triumph; sadly ZanuLabour are not just guilty of deserting the decent but activly supporting their opponents. Time is running out for our 'decent' society unless a fundamental shift in policy is brought about.
 

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