Britain may be without a fully operational aircraft carrier until 2030

#2
At first I thought that if we can manage without a carrier for so many years, perhaps we don't need one at all. But I listened to the Sec State for Defence and I am convinced that we are doing the right thing.
 
#4
Never mind, the new ice survey ship HMS Protector has just been launched. What do we need with an aircraft carrier, it's not like we live on a bloody island is it?
 
#5
You just watch, the Indians or the Pen&Inks will buy them, or, heaven forfend, the Frogs
 
#7
The whale watching boat has only been leased....
So we lease a ****-off big ship to watch for biological/geological/geographical anomalies, meanwhile the 'proper' bit of the navy rots away through lack of proper funding?
 
#9
Britain may be without a fully operational aircraft carrier until 2030.

Horatio Nelson's ghost will haunt what he sees as incapable, soft and bent so called leaders of 21st century British Empire ....... or should i say, the sediment of the Empire is all that is left now. :)
 
#11
Just out of interest, how long is it between laying the keel and putting to sea for a new Nimitz class carrier? I'm no navel engineer but surely it doesn't take over 20 years to build and equip one of the worlds biggest warships.

I'm still not sure how we managed to get here, we used to be good at building ships and stuff, now we can hardly put a nail in a bit wood with out it going over time and over budget.
 
#12
Just out of interest, how long is it between laying the keel and putting to sea for a new Nimitz class carrier? I'm no navel engineer but surely it doesn't take over 20 years to build and equip one of the worlds biggest warships.

I'm still not sure how we managed to get here, we used to be good at building ships and stuff, now we can hardly put a nail in a bit wood with out it going over time and over budget.
For the first Nimitz class (USS Nimitz) the build started 1 year after the order was placed. 7 years later it was in service.

For the final Nimitz class (USS George H.W. Bush) the build started 2.5 years after the order was placed. 5 years and 4 months later it was in service.

PS: The next gen US carriers (currently under construction and scheduled for 8 years) are expected to have a 5-year build time when ramped up.

'Bunch of useless cnuts' would be too generous to describe what we get.
 
#13
Just out of interest, how long is it between laying the keel and putting to sea for a new Nimitz class carrier? I'm no navel engineer but surely it doesn't take over 20 years to build and equip one of the worlds biggest warships.

I'm still not sure how we managed to get here, we used to be good at building ships and stuff, now we can hardly put a nail in a bit wood with out it going over time and over budget.
Construction

The keel of Nimitz was laid down 22 June 1968 by Newport News Shipbuilding in Newport News, Virginia. She was christened in 1972 by Catherine Nimitz Lay, daughter of the late Admiral Nimitz. Nimitz was delivered to the Navy in 1975, and she was commissioned at Naval Station Norfolk on 3 May 1975 by President Gerald Ford.

So,seven years then!
 
#14
Couldn't we just buy an American design off the (very large) shelf?

Possibly even with the airwing thrown in.
 
#16
How is it we can´t build tanks,make ammo or get an aircraftcarrier complete with ´planes that can fly off it yet we still make our own nuclear submarines?

The mind fcuking boggles............................
 
#18
Um, at risk of being accused of engaging in party politics an' that, it's not the build that's taking the time; it's delays for political and budgetary purposes that are the issue here. And, er, they belong at the door of that Gordon 'let me just get my crayons' Brown.
 
#19
A US carrier might look like a good idea, but:
It would cost damn near as much to procure
It would require so much crew that you wouldn't have enough for the escorts.
 
#20
A US carrier might look like a good idea, but:
It would cost damn near as much to procure
It would require so much crew that you wouldn't have enough for the escorts.
Interesting point. A question to Grey Funnel Line members-when we had carriers (those were the days, eh?), did Andrew play the equivalent of hot bed/hot carrier kinda stuff? That is, when you came back from a trip around the bay, would it be the same ship's company that took it back out? Or was there a reserve crew who came aboard? Honest question as I have absolutely no idea.
 

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