Britain Declares war on Germany 4th August 1914

Discussion in 'Old & Bold' started by Pararegtom, Aug 4, 2011.

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  1. Pararegtom

    Pararegtom LE Book Reviewer

    97 years ago today, Began the great war. Lets take a moment and remember all those who made the ultimate sacrifie.


    With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
    England mourns for her dead across the sea.
    Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
    Fallen in the cause of the free.

    Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
    Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres.
    There is music in the midst of desolation
    And a glory that shines upon our tears.

    They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
    Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
    They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
    They fell with their faces to the foe.

    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.

    They mingle not with laughing comrades again;
    They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
    They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
    They sleep beyond England's foam.

    But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
    Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
    To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
    As the stars are known to the Night;

    As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
    Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
    As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
    To the end, to the end, they remain.

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  2. 98 years ago, shurley...?
  3. 93 years ago, shouldn't it be? And obviously, RIP to all the brave lads who died.
  4. Pararegtom

    Pararegtom LE Book Reviewer

    sorry finger trouble

    Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
    Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,

    Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
    And towards our distant rest began to trudge.

    Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
    But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
    Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots.

    Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
    Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
    Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;

    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
    And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .

    Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning
    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
    He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;

    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest.

    To children ardent for some desperate glory,
    The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
    Pro patria mori.

    Wilfred Owen
    8 October 1917 - March, 1918

    Yet we still answer the call!
  6. Rest in peace to the men on all sides who gave their lives for their country.

    No, that would be 4th August 1918.
  7. Bollocks, you're right. 87 years ago. Three of us can't count.
  8. And that would be 4th August 1924. :D

    With your head from figures, I assume you're the pay clerk from our Regiment?
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  9. Gremlin

    Gremlin LE Good Egg (charities)

    Someone needs to retake their maths GCSEs. It's 97 years, otherwise you are going to be bloody lonely at the centennial memorial for the start of The Great War in 2018!!!

    My great uncle went to war today 97 years ago, lasted the whole damned shooting match as well, bar a couple of gassings.

    At the going down of the sun...
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  10. a simple equation is 2011-1914=97 years ago!

    Also the military channel on sky has had some very good programs about the Great War lately so give it a look!
  11. Are but what exactly are we going to commemorate and when?

    One interesting question is what is Brittan doing to commemorate the Great War?

    Other countries see the Great Wart as integral to their vision of themselves in the modern world.

    Australia and Canada see the Great War as the moment when they became nations. Australia plans to use the centenary as an opportunity to commemorate a century of the service of Australian Armed Forces. They see it as an opportunity to develop the shared heritage of a new immigrant nation.

    The French see 1914 as one of the years when the French Republic can be proud of itself and its achievements. I think Sarkozy might also see it as an opportunity to reaffirm the Anglo French axis.

    Ze Germans have suggested that the Great War paved the way for the C20th Europe.

    And the UK Government?

    Well, at the moment they would rather not think about it until after the Olympics - and then its in the hands of DCMS who have delegated it to the Imperial war Museum. They have no real budget so the major acidity to commemorate the Great War will be for the IWM to renovate the Great War Gallery to make it super innovative and interactive like the VC Gallery. Fewer exhibits and lots of technology which doesn't work. I heard Nigel Steeele present the plans a couple of weeks ago. He used the word "innovative" at least 12 times in 10 minutes to describe this as yet unplanned gallery, the aim of which seems to be to win a design award. It will be organised around modern theme such as "developement of technology" "Impact of war on people" "Genocide and the Great War" and other predigested pieces of thinking. It sounds ghastly - and pathetically inadequate for the commeoiration of an event of such significance.

    I am sure that the Scots and Irish will make a big effort to commemorate their involvement in the Great War. Its just the English and the Government who canl;t be bothered.
  12. See, I tried to do that. Didn't work out so well.