Bringing a rifle back to the UK

#21
I've semi sorted the FAC (Its now in the post). I have some guidance ref the EFP but I feel like its one of those things that EVERYONE has a different knowledge of.

I really thought a EFP would be a simple document that is linked to your rifle forever, but no, you need to deregister it if you move from country to country... waste of paper if you ask me

- FAC in the post, hopefully it arrives in time to sort out the import side of things
- I can sort out export consent via the customs lot here on camp.
- Transit wise, **** me thats the issue, but I've been told that if i have a hard case (which i have) I can DHL the thing to my new digs in Wiltshire. Saves me haibg to drive with it.
How did you get an FAC so quick? Its usually 3-6 months for the first one in many areas+ AFAIK its only Parcel Farce who carry firearms ?
 
#22
FWIW.
Please don't bring the ammo in hand luggage, it's an offence under CEMA.
Dependent how you come Please report to Red Channel.
If you have a FAC permitting your possession import should be no problem. Heathrow have a specialist team or did when I last looked.
 
#23
Ok my new unit is ******* me about and moving the goal posts around. Does anyone know, for certain, if it is explicitly forbidden to buy a gun safe, bolt it to the walls of the SLA and keeping a rifle in your room?

I know i'm going to piss people off, thats not not the intention. But does anyone know for sure if there are roders forbidding POF in the block or is it ok as long as they are legally secure?
 
#24
Ok my new unit is ******* me about and moving the goal posts around. Does anyone know, for certain, if it is explicitly forbidden to buy a gun safe, bolt it to the walls of the SLA and keeping a rifle in your room?

I know i'm going to piss people off, thats not not the intention. But does anyone know for sure if there are roders forbidding POF in the block or is it ok as long as they are legally secure?
Take a wild guess.

I had to keep mine in the unit armoury at every posting. I did build relationships with the armoury staff so that I had them out for 'long term cleaning', or 'repairs' and they were marked as such in the book for any orderly officers inspection.

I don't know how far you are with bringing them back into the UK but, I dodgily got mine onto a NATO travel order to shift them through europe. When I arrived in the UK they were declared and deposited in the local 'Custom's Queen's Warehouse' until I got my FAC and went to collect them.
 
#25
Take a wild guess.

I had to keep mine in the unit armoury at every posting. I did build relationships with the armoury staff so that I had them out for 'long term cleaning', or 'repairs' and they were marked as such in the book for any orderly officers inspection.

I don't know how far you are with bringing them back into the UK but, I dodgily got mine onto a NATO travel order to shift them through europe. When I arrived in the UK they were declared and deposited in the local 'Custom's Queen's Warehouse' until I got my FAC and went to collect them.
Not to be smart but I actually haven't seen it written anywhere on orders that I can't have a firearm in SLA accommodation. The SM that I'm emailing in the UK has asked me why I'm not keeping it in the mess "like my other SNCO's" (I'm not in any mess)

I'm being given a list of reasons that I can't leave my rifle in the unit armory, including every time i take it out or put it in there needs to be a 100% serial number check (first time I've ever head of that), Armory will be sealed over leave/deployment (I'm fine with that) and the store man getting fucked around over weekends (an easy fix). So its all well and good having a good relationship with the staff but because i'm a pvt i can't even use the armory.

I don't need a NATO travel order to transport it but I've applied for a FAC but i'm going to have to sort storage out before i arrive, plain and simple. I won't be breaking the law and if it means buying a safe and bolting it to the wall, i'll f***ing no balls, eyebrows do it.
 
#26
Go for it.

I could not find it anywhere either, however as I needed the CO to countersign furrin applications for local FAC's/WBK's the CO always said that I had to keep my gat's in the armoury. So I played the game and handed over some beer's to the arm's storeman. I was a Pvt. first off too.
 
#27
Ok my new unit is ******* me about and moving the goal posts around. Does anyone know, for certain, if it is explicitly forbidden to buy a gun safe, bolt it to the walls of the SLA and keeping a rifle in your room?

I know i'm going to piss people off, thats not not the intention. But does anyone know for sure if there are roders forbidding POF in the block or is it ok as long as they are legally secure?
https://assets.publishing.service.g...604_-_JSP_464_Volume_2_Part_1_-_Version_8.pdf
JSP 464 from June ‘18 Para 0511
0511. Storage of Privately Owned Weapons in SLA. All privately owned firearms (including shotguns) and ammunition held within MOD establishments must be the subject of a firearms (or shotgun) certificate. Occupants of SLA are to store privately owned firearms in approved Service armouries or licensed explosive storehouses as appropriate. The storage of privately owned firearms (including shotguns) and ammunition in SLA is not permitted
 
#29
Thanks for that, not the information i wanted but at least I've explored that short route haha
Sorry. I recalled it from a while back but thought I’d get it in black and white as it were. Never had a problem storing privately owned firearms in camp in the armoury, just made sure I got them before he left and returned them as soon as possible.

Good luck
 
#30
Thanks for that, not the information i wanted but at least I've explored that short route haha
Having a UK Sect 1 makes things far easier. If your new unit is set on f***ing you about, it's also good to have your FAC registered at your parents' address.
Ref the bull54it you've been strung about having to do 100% serial number checks every time a firearm goes out of the arms store, I've never heard such rubbish. Either your new unit has some weird local standing orders, you new SM is misunderstanding your unit's own orders, or he just can't be arsed with what he sees as "the hassle" of dealing with privately owned firearms. I can't imagine that they do a 100% serial number check every time a weapon goes for repair or a troop goes on ranges.
I had firearms in Germany for many years, but was always in the position that they were held on a UK FAC, registered at my parents', as well as on my WBK and Jagdschein. Any time they came over with me, I just presented whichever gun(s) I was carrying and my FAC for inspection at UK Customs and went through without issue.
As has been said already, an EFP granted outside the UK is only good on entry into UK if it's backed up with a UK visitors' Permit.
I hope you manage to get it all sorted mate, I know it can be hard work when, as a junior rank, you have to deal with SSMs and SQMSs who think they're somehow doing you a favour by letting you keep your toys in "their" stores.
 

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