Brexit - The Final

Tony Abbot was quite clear, forthright, coherent, and explained “No-Deal” in words of one syllable that Humphries could clearly understand, but to which he reacted as though it was the first time . . . in three years . . . that he had shut-up and taken the effort to LISTEN.

The interview finished, with me listening and wearing a big grin . . . and Humphries clearly crestfallen, quite, and confused . . . :) .
I quite agree - he was clear, succint, and made his arguments far more effectively than any Leave-supporting UK politician that I've heard. He almost had me going "WTO terms, what a good idea", and I'm a Remoaner. Humphrys didn't challenge him on any of it, which surprised me less than it used to; maybe they should have put Andrew Neil on the case...

The problem is, Abbot is politically very similar to Leave-supporting UK politicians; big mouth, small ears, was held on a tight leash by his party. He also never managed to get above a 50% satisfaction rating among Australian voters, at his worst had a rating similar to Corbyn's. His term as Prime Minister ended similarly to Theresa May - stabbed in the front by his own party for being incompetent and unpopular.
 
Under the CTA, anyone who’s Irish can use the NHS just the same as UK nationals.
Indeed they can, as can British citizens access healthcare in Ireland. However outside of emergency care, for full access to the NHS an Irish citizen either has to live in the UK or work there. It's not a case of someone who is an Irish citizen living and working south of the border can just travel North of the border and have full access to the NHS such as visiting GP's e.t.c. on a normal basis.
 
It's quite simple... If it hasn't been legislated against, it is legal tax avoidance.

If there isn't the appetite to close down tax loopholes, then that isn't the fault of those who take advantage of them, but of those too lazy to legislate to close them.
The latter funded by the former....no links there then...
 
Still playing the victim I see, Champ.

Snigger.
You don't get the blaming others makes you the self designating victim? <chortle>
 
Indeed they can, as can British citizens access healthcare in Ireland. However outside of emergency care, for full access to the NHS an Irish citizen either has to live in the UK or work there. It's not a case of someone who is an Irish citizen living and working south of the border can just travel North of the border and have full access to the NHS such as visiting GP's e.t.c. on a normal basis.
THEY DO NOT CHECK, NOT EVER.

Turn up at a walk in GP clinic, need a hospital procedure, you will be sent, no questions asked.
 
:applaud:

“Good morning, madam, I’m from the Lib Dems. May we count on your vote?”

“Certainly not. You’ve said if you win you’ll cancel Brexit. That’s undemocratic.”

“No it isn’t, madam. It’s entirely democratic. If the people vote for a Lib Dem government, that means the people want Brexit cancelled.”

“No it doesn’t. You can form a government with as little as 35 per cent of the vote. So it would be a minority denying the will of a majority.”

“But madam, cancelling Brexit is our manifesto pledge. Governments have to deliver on their manifesto pledges. That’s democracy.”


 
Considering you don’t even know how long a medical bachelors is, you appear to claim to know a lot about this kind of thing...
I do though.

5 years of medical school, of which the first 4 years are paid for by tuition fees. Students sit their finals after year 4, and the fifth year is wholly spent in clinical environments and the tuition fee is paid for by the NHS. This will gain them an MBChB.

Medical students may optionally take an Intercalated degree after year 2 or year 4. This means a further year of study so that they gain an extra BSc degree (if intercalating after year 2) or an MSc (if after year 4).

After graduation (after the 5 or 6 years - hope you are keeping up), the Medical Student is part licensed by the General Medical Council and becomes an Foundation Level 1 doctor (F1). This means they work in a teaching hospital, supervised and regularly assessed.

If they are successful in F1, they progress to F2 status and continue on but with rather less supervision. After F2 they become fully licensed to practice medicine by the GMC.

It takes a minimum of seven years to become licenced to practice medicine in the UK. Further examined study is then required to progress through the Specialism or General Practice routes to become a consultant of GP.

I know because I am paying for one of my children to progress down this particular line.

She knows that you are talking out of your backside when it comes to the difference between Mo-66 and Tc-99 as well, and that the availability of Mo-66 post Brexit is not an issue being discussed in hospitals around the country by medical staff. They expect materiel to be available and the supply chains are working to ensure that happens. It is not the insurmountable problem that you would have people believe, as we already have supply chains in place that deliver materiel all around the world at the drop of a hat - TNT, DHL or Fedex for example will be able to carry out this delivery, as will other couriers. It may cost a little more to take advantage of such companies but it is a solved problem.

The price will alter rather than availability. The places that make the materiel will continue to do so, and companies will stand in line to deliver it where it is needed. They will charge what they charge. Please stop trying to persuade people that things cannot be delivered from A to B in a timely manner. There are companies who do such things day in, day out.

As I also pointed out up-thread, we have a viable backup process using military transport if needed. It won't be needed, but it is available should it be.
 
Not sure if this has already been posted but just in case! - electoral commission finds that Remain groups broke electoral law in the EU referendum plus massively overspent their allowed limit

 
Not sure if this has already been posted but just in case! - electoral commission finds that Remain groups broke electoral law in the EU referendum plus massively overspent their allowed limit

It is ( cough cough ) plastered all over the BBC and Graun o_O o_O
 

no surprises with this poll, outside of her cult Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP are hated with a passion and her govts domestic performance is shockingly bad.

The more intersting thing is whether something like this reduces her ability to influence the next GE - if Labour or Limpo Dems were to create a pact which offered her yet another indy referendum it would not go down well for most of the Population north and south of the border.
 
I wasn't suggesting it would: simply pointing out how stubborn Parliamentarians can be about clinging in to their collective power, prestige and privilege*

So - if genuine rebalancing is to happen, well then We The People better get angry enough that collectively we're ready for a prolonged effort to make it happen.

The alternative(s) don't bear thinking about, because the least worst you're gonna be stuck with is weak government, and the worst could be something not unlike a dictatorship.
The real problem is that the rebalancers have to form a party and persuade people to vote for them. As you observe turkeys don't vote for Christmas. One of the problems of democracy is that you can only vote for what is available and the ideas you want to see available have to be attractive enough to potential MPs for them to be willing to take on the job.
 

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The Lib Dems would appoint a "happiness" minister to assess "well being" with every government policy if they won a majority in government.
Her Majesty's Daily Telegraph (Behind a paywall)

Well that should certainly have the business of government speeding along like a well oiled speeding along thing then... certainly gets my vote.

If everyone thinks the same way they'll walk the next election. Remember folks, there's only another 310 or so seats needed for St Jo the Saviour to lead us into the sun filled paradise of eternal happiness.
 
You're conveniently ignoring all of the opt-outs that the UK has, and that cannot be taken away. So, no, we won't be taking the Euro, forced into a single tax system, or dragged into a Euroempire...

While it's not a direct answer, I'll add a link on the basis that all of this is in the rebuttal of that swivel-eyed Lisbon Treaty email that was pushed across social media by the Troll Farms...

Which optouts cannot be taken away?

you are aware that the eu hasn't 'settled' yet.
 
So lets have a Remain view of their sunlit EU uplands. As we are still waiting - four years later - for their explanation of the EU federalisation roadmap, perhaps they can do an all-in-one that includes the UK? What now the future for Parliament, the Sovereign, the social contract? Is it worth the expense of giving people a fake vote on something, or will you just tell them that the ethereal beings in Westminster and Brussels will make all the grown-up decisions for them?
remainers like this concept.

zero democracy and less effort.
 
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