Brexit Phase Two - Trade

skid2

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A customs union would be fine as long as it makes economic sense and does not come with a whole host of conditions whereby the EU retain control and limit the UKs freedom of action.

Easy tests by which to judge the worth of any proposal.
Like the one we had. With input, full access a say in all procedures. And the ability to trade with whoever we liked, like Germany and France were doing.

Who on earth could come up with a gig like that one. Indeed, having got a gig like that. Access, A say in what was happening, Opt outs and interacting or not as we thought fit.

We ditched that for........ sovereignty (anybody miss the Queens birthday party. Anyone sing in German, Anyone ordered to sing in French)

Border control, this Irish thing.?
 
How about the mutual w* nkfest buggers off to the Brexit consiquences thread where no one listenes to your bleating
And leave this thread to anyone who can actually post posts regarding trade.
This rushing to the latest thread with your “beliefs”which you repeat ad nausiem “just wastes bandwidth.
It would just save the rest of us so much time.
Yours sincerely cb.

Trade talks are many months away, as you must surely recognise by now.
 
Serious question?

It’s because Germany manages to use the misery of poorer euro countries to keep its prices down. The Euro exchange rate is negatively impacted by the third world members of the zone, making German exports cheaper than they should be.

It’s classic German financial lmarket manipulation, but it’s going to bite them on their arse when the currency fails.

The German economy has been very rightly called a ‘Vampire economy’ sucking the life out of the surrounding ‘hosts’.
 
In an ideal world the EU could temporarily keep its interfering snib out and only act as an observer (Impossible task I know).

Dublin-Belfast/Westminster draft a mutual frictionless border agreement which doesn't conflict with the GFA, and if 'all three' agree in the national interests then simply inform the EU of Belfast/Dublin's intentions allowing it to be voted & signed off.

Eire as a EU MS is capable of achieving this, Brussels doesn't want to be seen as not being in control.


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Why? you really don’t get it.

The brexiters promoted this, caused this and expect others to fix it?
That’s insane. You could see it if we hadn’t gone out of our way, alienating Johnnie Foreigner, making life difficult for those living here and hoping to live here.

Now they’re expected to sort us out.
I’ve been asking for months and a bit. You knew what you were voting for, surely there’s a solution other than relying on Europe.
I think my post emphasised Brussels being the cause of the issue not the solution.

I certainly do get it, the EU don't.

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Like the one we had. With input, full access a say in all procedures. And the ability to trade with whoever we liked, like Germany and France were doing.

Who on earth could come up with a gig like that one. Indeed, having got a gig like that. Access, A say in what was happening, Opt outs and interacting or not as we thought fit.

We ditched that for........ sovereignty (anybody miss the Queens birthday party. Anyone sing in German, Anyone ordered to sing in French)

Border control, this Irish thing.?
Unfortunately the one we had (EEC) became wrapped up with lots of things that were not liked, all well aired on here.
 
Why? you really don’t get it.

The brexiters promoted this, caused this and expect others to fix it?
That’s insane. You could see it if we hadn’t gone out of our way, alienating Johnnie Foreigner, making life difficult for those living here and hoping to live here.

Now they’re expected to sort us out.
I’ve been asking for months and a bit. You knew what you were voting for, surely there’s a solution other than relying on Europe.
Eh?
Your naivete, spelt in capital letters.......
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
I think my post emphasised Brussels being the cause of the issue not the solution.

I certainly do get it, the EU don't.

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Of course you get it. That’s exactly why the media, the broadsheets, next, the tabloids all change their tune to get you used to the fact that the customs union is no more, it’s something else.

Not quite the first day on the Somme as a victory, but not a kick in the arse off.
 
Yerp, Properly as well. But just to clarify I'm talking about the determination as to who controls trade talks in the, EU. I am however mindful that the EU does not do specifics. So answers on the popes Bosom, set squares and protractors may be used. Just don't stab Higgsy.
Higgsy will not appear for a while yet. He dare not post whilst on ROPs because he is always right and he could not be seen to be otherwise. However, other socks he uses... ;-)
 
Unfortunately the one we had (EEC) became wrapped up with lots of things that were not liked, all well aired on here.
Surely, we need another 900 pages of 'whataboutery' from the remain voters, regurgitating, ad nauseum, why they think we are as thick as mince to have voted leave their wonderful soicialist construct..........lickspital retards.
 
In an ideal world the EU could temporarily keep its interfering snib out and only act as an observer (Impossible task I know).

Dublin-Belfast/Westminster draft a mutual frictionless border agreement which doesn't conflict with the GFA, and if 'all three' agree in the national interests then simply inform the EU of Belfast/Dublin's intentions allowing it to be voted & signed off.

Eire as a EU MS is capable of achieving this, Brussels doesn't want to be seen as not being in control.


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a bit like Spain is being allowed to do with UK in respect of Gib.
Theres people that excel at resolution solving while others excel at simply exacerbating issues.



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I thought that there was going to be something next week? Not trade exactly, but certainly related.

There's the Trade and the Customs Bills. These are to do with the UK's future relationship with the EU.

The trade talks with other countries won't move beyond big hand, small map business until the UK's relationship with the EU is clear. Don't expect that this year.

There's even a growing possibility that HMG will be defeated on one of its biggest red lines regarding the Customs Union, so fantasies about other trading relationships need to be parked in a siding for quite some time.
 
There's the Trade and the Customs Bills. These are to do with the UK's future relationship with the EU.

The trade talks with other countries won't move beyond big hand, small map business until the UK's relationship with the EU is clear. Don't expect that this year.

There's even a growing possibility that HMG will be defeated on one of its biggest red lines regarding the Customs Union, so fantasies about other trading relationships need to be parked in a siding for quite some time.
I know.

Hence the post.

Although there have obviously been some talks with Australia, so my guess is that there are many others too. We will have to guess whether they constitute "big hand small map" but to say nothing is happening seems a little unimaginative.
 
I think my post emphasised Brussels being the cause of the issue not the solution.

I certainly do get it, the EU don't.

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Of course you get it. That’s exactly why the media, the broadsheets, next, the tabloids all change their tune to get you used to the fact that the customs union is no more, it’s something else.

Not quite the first day on the Somme as a victory, but not a kick in the arse off.
Genuine question: Are you hoping the custom issue collapses thus the NI border goes unresolved due to Brussels refusing to negotiate not dictate?



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I know.

Hence the post.

Although there have obviously been some talks with Australia, so my guess is that there are many others too. We will have to guess whether they constitute "big hand small map" but to say nothing is happening seems a little unimaginative.

Nothing of any consequence will happen. I hope that helps.
 

skid2

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I have a strong dislike for the political weasels of every hue, but it's interesting that Fox is disgraced ,whilst the likes of Mandelson is considered virtuous.

Nothing to do with their political stance, I suppose?
Has anyone in here (apart from yourself) described Peter Mendelson as virtuous?

Just asking like .
 
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