Brexit Phase Two - Trade

OT and on call allowances paid for our early new year holiday. Thankfully the preparations weren’t needed, but if they had been it would be a different story. (Except the overtime and on call allowances and the holiday).
The horror and distress was worth it.

Anyway News from today’s Times
Irish border solution is a fantasy, says former EU envoy
I'll give him that and the reason is this. Since 2008 Customs matters have been the remit of the EU, but they've barely scratched the surface on preventive customs controls-i.e those bits that ensure the revenue due is collected and audit the accounts. Ireland has been one of the great get outs,but it hasn't been the only one.

You will note that the issues surrounding the collection of taxes is always retroactive-sometimes by decades under the EU. There was a time when the function of Customs was to collect the taxes prior to the goods being marketed but that's long gone since that has a knock-on for liquidity. So these days it's undertakings to pay with fewer checks on the business- "as they are deemed trustworthy":shock:.

But no border checks has been quite convenient for the EU and Ireland and to some extent it's been the template for Europe. It's been reduced to collect what you can, when you can with a healthy increase in income from the legal profession who are tax deductible. But the Irish IMHO always had their fingers crossed in terms of the six counties even when they agreed to lay off. GFA reveals itself for what it is a convenient temporary fudge and the EU now have a problem they never wanted. Tough innit!!
 
Up to your usual standard.
I believe the ones responsible for murdering that Irish policeman are still in jail. No early release. And unlike here they still hold over 60 Republicans in Irish jails.
I don’t know about you, but I consider jail to be jail wherever it is.
and the responsibility for lies with...........? Sommink to do with no prosecution letters and the bastardisation [loosely]of a country doing everything it could legitimately in it's own defence.
 
I’m beginning to think this is all a clever ploy.

Our Brexit negotiators are being deliberately obtuse on the border, right up until the deadline. Then at the last minute they produce a solution so devilishly simple and workable. The Eu mass of negotiators step back and look at our people and their entirely reasonable (British) requests with a newfound respect and grant our demands .

The rest of the world having seen how artfully we have played Johnny Foreigner will immediately want to come aboard and sign up to our regulatory alignment programme. (Which was ours all along. The DUP get told to shut up and trouser another billion)
We'll red line it until the last minute before giving in and calling it somethings else.
 
You'd think this would be a clue...

 
You'd think this would be a clue...

Quite, show it to the Taoiseach and explain that Ireland would be much better off in a bespoke customs union with the UK rather than the EU.
 
It's interesting to use the term 'trading partner' when the relationship is more customer - vendor.

The same definition makes Tesco and me 'trading partners'.
But they'll bend over backwards to do a special and bespoke deal with you because you buy more of their product than they do of yours...
Quite, show it to the Taoiseach and explain that Ireland would be much better off in a bespoke customs union with the UK rather than the EU.
That's down to the people of Ireland but the logic's bollixed.
 
But they'll bend over backwards to do a special and bespoke deal with you because you buy more of their product than they do of yours...

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Not an unreasonable proposal if my custom was the lions share of their sales.

Tesco would need my custom more than I need Tesco, when I can shop elsewhere.

It still isn't a 'trading partnership', but a customer - vendor relationship.
 
Not an unreasonable proposal if my custom was the lions share of their sales.

Tesco would need my custom more than I need Tesco, when I can shop elsewhere.

It still isn't a 'trading partnership', but a customer - vendor relationship.
We're not the be all and end all for them.

Shit loads of our stuff goes there, as well as services. The point is, that's where most of our trade is.
 

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and the responsibility for lies with...........? Sommink to do with no prosecution letters and the bastardisation [loosely]of a country doing everything it could legitimately in it's own defence.
Issued by both labour and conservative governments. So there must have been something in it. That handover conversation must have been interesting. ‘Now we have this deal with republican suspects. There are 187 of them, who have something known as comfort letters’
 
Issued by both labour and conservative governments. So there must have been something in it. That handover conversation must have been interesting. ‘Now we have this deal with republican suspects. There are 187 of them, who have something known as comfort letters’
Of course there's an advantage to GOOJF cards. Perhaps we would could issue them to everyone and then no justice system would be necessary and I could of nick something off thieving Bankers. :-D
 

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We're not the be all and end all for them.

Shit loads of our stuff goes there, as well as services. The point is, that's where most of our trade is.
(The Irish Times Newspaper)
The Irish equivalent of the NHS has agreed to terms to have 70,000 patients awaiting operations in the South to have the treatment under the UK NHS.
 
Spot on. Unless they miscalculate and we fall over the edge...

Still the usual fools will swallow the government rhetoric and declare victory.

Brexiteers are greedy swallowers of lies

Britain sticks with magical thinking on Brexit Border issue
Cliff rather misses the point. There is another option - and that is a hard border with blame laid fairly and squarely at the feet of the EU.

There must have been a reasonably comprehensive UK plan for an alternative solution because it took the EU 5 days to go through it and (eventually) reject it.

So, people of Ireland, stand by to stand by.
 
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