Brexit Phase Two - Trade

If the Eu has so little clout, in the rest of the world. It didn’t hang around in Africa when it needed doing. It had more flying stuff than we had in Syria the other week. Oh wait, that was just one country. France.

l.
Are you now fantasising the Attack on Syria was an EU operation?

Nope, can’t see an EU markings on the US, UK and French forces.
 
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If the Eu has so little clout, in the rest of the world. It didn’t hang around in Africa when it needed doing. It had more flying stuff than we had in Syria the other week. Oh wait, that was just one country. France.
Just in case it is difficult for you to comprehend. The EU had NO PART in current operations in Syria of Mali. Basically it did f*ck all when sh*t needed doing in Africa. France and France alone did that. Requests for assistance (ie transport planes) came from France, not the EU. The EU has little clout in the world bar gifting European taxpayers' money.
 
Just in case it is difficult for you to comprehend. The EU had NO PART in current operations in Syria of Mali. Basically it did f*ck all when sh*t needed doing in Africa. France and France alone did that. Requests for assistance (ie transport planes) came from France, not the EU. The EU has little clout in the world bar gifting European taxpayers' money.
So you’re saying that the EU gifts our money away and claims it’s from the EU itself?
 
If the Eu has so little clout, in the rest of the world. It didn’t hang around in Africa when it needed doing. It had more flying stuff than we had in Syria the other week. Oh wait, that was just one country. France.

You do realise Heartbeat was a work of fiction and Miss Marple wasn’t real.
You mean the ex colonial power France, that ensured that only it would bring her territories into the EEC an that British ensuring that British interests are less important. Remember Syria was the French bit- we Lost any influence in Iraq thanks to Blair, fool of a took that he was. Lebanon was French as Palestine was ours. Seesh with allies like that-who the hell needs enemies. France can do in it's territories what it likes. -You do realise that even if Parliament had said no again France and the US would have gone in without us.
 
Google disgraced Liam Fox, or disgraced former defence secretary Liam fox. That’s a reasonable start.

Are you sitting there seriously thinking that Brexit and they way it’s going has enhanced, improved or done anything to elevate our standing and reputation. Not only in Europe (very little sway on the international scene? How many trade relationships do we have through and thanks to Europe. Japan, the US. Ring any bells). And the rest of the world.

If the Eu has so little clout, in the rest of the world. It didn’t hang around in Africa when it needed doing. It had more flying stuff than we had in Syria the other week. Oh wait, that was just one country. France.

You do realise Heartbeat was a work of fiction and Miss Marple wasn’t real.
That isn't the most epic contradiction I've read on here, but it's in the top two.
 

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Just in case it is difficult for you to comprehend. The EU had NO PART in current operations in Syria of Mali. Basically it did f*ck all when sh*t needed doing in Africa. France and France alone did that. Requests for assistance (ie transport planes) came from France, not the EU. The EU has little clout in the world bar gifting European taxpayers' money.
Neither did your previous countries mentioned. Who aren’t in the Eu. I used France as an example when you claimed that Europe is of little consequence in the world. Your assertion falls flat when one country (France,again) outdoes us in the Syrianian operation it (and us) being members of the Eu sort of shows how important we are to Trump and US foreign policy.

Any way while I’m here.
Yesterday. Guardian

Each Brexit scenario will leave Britain worse off, study finds
 
Neither did your previous countries mentioned. Who aren’t in the Eu. I used France as an example when you claimed that Europe is of little consequence in the world. Your assertion falls flat when one country (France,again) outdoes us in the Syrianian operation it (and us) being members of the Eu sort of shows how important we are to Trump and US foreign policy.

Any way while I’m here.
Yesterday. Guardian

Each Brexit scenario will leave Britain worse off, study finds
France. Not the EU.

As has been alluded to you several times. Mali is a French problem, because Mali has ties with France because it’s a former French colony.

Syria is a former French protectorate.

Sierra Leone. Tenner that one? Was a former British colony. Britain alone dealt with Sierra Leone. Not the French, not the EU, but the UK.

So now hopefully you’ve got your head around the difference between French policy and European foreign policy.

You may be thinking possibly of the EUs mission in Chad. For that you may be getting a bit confused. Chad is once again a former French colony, and as such France makes up the bulk of the EUs troops. Albania’s whopping contribution of 60 troops and a whole host of other non swimmers allows somebody in Brussels’s to pretend the EU has some influence in Chad, but in reality, it’s a french operation .

If ever you had done a tour, you would realise that ther s a few country’s that supply the expertise, a few country’s that throw token troop numbers in order to give the impression of a broad level of political support, and then the EU office who add no value whatsoever because they can’t coordinate 27 different country’s foreign policy.

Germany for example supplied reccie aircraft in AFG. Their aircrafts IMINT was not allowed to be used for kinetic targeting. So in short, the Germans deployed an asset of absolutely no value.
 

skid2

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France. Not the EU.

As has been alluded to you several times. Mali is a French problem, because Mali has ties with France because it’s a former French colony.

Syria is a former French protectorate.

Sierra Leone. Tenner that one? Was a former British colony. Britain alone dealt with Sierra Leone. Not the French, not the EU, but the UK.

So now hopefully you’ve got your head around the difference between French policy and European foreign policy.

You may be thinking possibly of the EUs mission in Chad. For that you may be getting a bit confused. Chad is once again a former French colony, and as such France makes up the bulk of the EUs troops. Albania’s whopping contribution of 60 troops and a whole host of other non swimmers allows somebody in Brussels’s to pretend the EU has some influence in Chad, but in reality, it’s a french operation .

If ever you had done a tour, you would realise that ther s a few country’s that supply the expertise, a few country’s that throw token troop numbers in order to give the impression of a broad level of political support, and then the EU office who add no value whatsoever because they can’t coordinate 27 different country’s foreign policy.

Germany for example supplied reccie aircraft in AFG. Their aircrafts IMINT was not allowed to be used for kinetic targeting. So in short, the Germans deployed an asset of absolutely no value.
Thanks for the info, but I used France as an example, and I do understand the import of window dressing in support of a coalition.

You wrote off Europe as being inconsequential. I pointed out two examples of European uninconsequentialness(?)
Us and France, we were clearly not inconsequential. The French less so.
It can’t be that difficult.
 

skid2

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Today’s Telegraph.

A summary for those who can’t get a look ( and for the likes of me who can’t do a lift)

Eu comprehensively rejects British proposals for avoiding a hard border with NI. This casts serious doubts on UKs ability to leave the Customs Union.

Over a series of 5 meetings U.K. plan was subjected to ‘systemic and forensic annihilation’. At a meeting this week between Eu negotiators and Olly Robbins, (UKs lead Brexit negotiator) it was made clear that none of the U.K. customs options will work........none of them.

5 rounds of meetings and back to the drawing board. The U.K. not surprisingly is somewhat shocked. TM is now to personally chair the new ‘war cabinet’ as it’s ten weeks to go until the June Eu council meeting.
Interesting times indeed.
 
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