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BBC reporting that the council of Europe have agreed to move on to real trade talks saying the solutions to Ireland's borders and ECJ will be found in these trade talks! More detail to come but the meeting was very short apparently.

Now on to Phase 2/2 :p :cool:
 
Looks like the deal has been signed.

EU leaders formally back Brexit transition deal
Britain and the European Union have agreed a Brexit transition deal, paving the way for future UK-EU trade talks, after EU leaders formally backed the agreement at a summit on Brussels on Friday.
Still has to be signed off by the EU parliament, but they'll look utter chimps if they reject it.

Also has to go through Westminster, and there I expect a blizzard of amendments by the opposition parties trying to score political points. However, in most cases, I suspect they'll only succeed in scoring own goals.

Wordsmith
 
Looks like we might actually be able to protect our fish stocks when we get them back from the EU. Although a few maritime patrol aircraft with basic radar might actually help us find illegally fishing trawlers in the first place...
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Wordsmith

Well, from next year, the RAF starts taking delivery of its super sexy new P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft,
 
Meanwhile Sir Vince of Cable continues to cover himself in glory.

Sir Vince Cable facing humiliation after EU leaders disown claim they backed calls for second Brexit referendum
Sir Vince Cable faced humiliation on Thursday after European Union leaders disowned claims that they had backed calls for a second Brexit referendum.

The Liberal Democrats said that eight Liberal prime ministers had agreed a joint statement calling for the British people to be given a “final say” on the terms of the UK’s withdrawal deal. But the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE) quickly distanced itself from the claims and said “no statement has been agreed upon or released”.
He really is an idiot. No foreign heads of state are going to release a joint statement that amounts to interference in the UK's domestic affairs.

The dementia is obviously kicking in....

Wordsmith
 
Well, from next year, the RAF starts taking delivery of its super sexy new P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft,
Something tells me there will be a brisk trade starting in 2021 in EU fishing boats in UK waters without permission being escorted into British ports.

The fines will be a nice source of revenue as well.

Wordsmith
 
I see the passport story is all over the Daily Mail.

Who'd have thought - in a head long rush to introduce a pointless, symbolic 'patriotic' change, British industry ultimately loses out.

There might be a lesson there.
 
I see the passport story is all over the Daily Mail.

Who'd have thought - in a head long rush to introduce a pointless, symbolic 'patriotic' change, British industry ultimately loses out.

There might be a lesson there.

Do keep up, already done, its a non story as De La Rue already print UK passports abroad and Gemalto will be making these 'French' UK passports in Fareham and Heywood in England.
 
Trade thread old son
The frothing about the mail thread is over there,
From the remain perspective I suspect today has been rather depressing. Another step has been taken towards Brexit. The Heads of State - who ultimately tell Barnier and Juncker what to do - seem to be prioritising a smooth transition and relatively uninterrupted trade over any fantasies the dynamic duo might have about punishing the UK for Brexit.

And if the comments of the Dutch prime minister are anything to go by (see recent posts), some heads of state are increasingly realising that the European Commission is pursuing its own agenda - and not one necessarily in the interests of the member states. Post-Brexit, I wonder if we'll see a collective effort by the heads of state to clip the Commissions wings?

Wordsmith
 
I see the passport story is all over the Daily Mail.

Who'd have thought - in a head long rush to introduce a pointless, symbolic 'patriotic' change, British industry ultimately loses out.

There might be a lesson there.
Not really. It's the pointless and inane comments about blue Passports and Unicorns made by remainers which in their eyes are apparently self fulfilling quite missing the point that we've already dispersed a load of industry over the years. My passport ran out in '14 and I've not renewed nor do I feel the urge to tie up £105 in a document. That really stuffs the establishment- "You need a valid passport" er no I don't.
 
From the remain perspective I suspect today has been rather depressing. Another step has been taken towards Brexit. The Heads of State - who ultimately tell Barnier and Juncker what to do - seem to be prioritising a smooth transition and relatively uninterrupted trade over any fantasies the dynamic duo might have about punishing the UK for Brexit.

And if the comments of the Dutch prime minister are anything to go by (see recent posts), some heads of state are increasingly realising that the European Commission is pursuing its own agenda - and not one necessarily in the interests of the member states. Post-Brexit, I wonder if we'll see a collective effort by the heads of state to clip the Commissions wings?

Wordsmith

'The Debate' on SKY news this morning was very interesting. With watching.
 
Meanwhile, Juncker has just offered up a hostage to fortune.

'If he goes, I go!' - Jean-Claude Juncker threatens to quit in row over 'monster' Eurocrat promotion
Jean Claude-Juncker, the president of the European Commission, has threatened to resign if his most senior adviser is forced out of a new job at the helm of the EU civil service. Martin Selmayr, a 47-year-old German lawyer renowned for his shrewd tactics and virulent anti-Brexit stance, was suddenly promoted to the position of secretary general at the Commission in February.

The appointment sparked a furore in Brussels, with MEPs complaining that the appointment was orchestrated in secret, which made the EU look like an "old boys' club." Mr Selmayr was reportedly handed the job by Mr Juncker in a matter of minutes, following the sudden retirement of his predecessor, Alexander Italianer.
I wonder if the Eu parliament will see this as a 2-4-1 offer - get rid of Selmayr, then invite Juncker to make good on his threat.

Wordsmith
 
Not really. It's the pointless and inane comments about blue Passports and Unicorns made by remainers which in their eyes are apparently self fulfilling quite missing the point that we've already dispersed a load of industry over the years. My passport ran out in '14 and I've not renewed nor do I feel the urge to tie up £105 in a document. That really stuffs the establishment- "You need a valid passport" er no I don't.
Which member of the establishment stated that 'you need a valid passport'?
 
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