Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Unable to strike a deal without EU Support?
Well, it's a real fact at present, and has been for many years, that very many deals from the Middle East, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and China for example, are really very good deals at present. Why on earth should that change. The small amount of duty charged is negligible with many items are not even charged at all. Are the experts on this thread saying that the EU set all this up?

Dyson the British Billionaire, Has his factory in Jahore State in Malaya. (Though I would rather see him have it here at home)
 
That makes the point that one took over the other, therefore prexisting agreements, if not recinded, stand.
I think you may be misunderstanding a little. The EASA is the regulatory body for aviation. The ECAA is not a regulatory body, it is an agreement that EU airline companies can operate from and to any EU country airport.
As in Ryanair being able to fly from a UK airport to a Spanish airport instead of originating or terminating in Ireland. Lufthansa being able to fly from Rome to Paris without originating in a German airport and so on.
Two totally different things.
The EASA has taken over from the Joint Air Authority and has taken over the regulatory bodies of member states such as the CAA in part which existed before the EU.
The ECAA is simply an agreement which didn't exist before the EU.
Hardly a pre=existing agreement.
 
The main drivers to EASA shenanigans are Air France and Lufthansa who see an opportunity to drive efficient UK airlines out of European markets.

It suits no one, least of all the EUrines to see any reduction in aviation safety standards.

There will be a transitional deal in place for April 2019

The UK is a global player, the EUrines will do a deal that allows the UK to stay in EASA without the ECJ.
 
The main drivers to EASA shenanigans are Air France and Lufthansa who see an opportunity to drive efficient UK airlines out of European markets.

It suits no one, least of all the EUrines to see any reduction in aviation safety standards.

There will be a transitional deal in place for April 2019

The UK is a global player, the EUrines will do a deal that allows the UK to stay in EASA without the ECJ.
Absolute out and out bollox. BA Is an efficient UK airline, is it? Ryanair is Irish. Monarch went bust.
Have a look at the top 10 European airlines for efficiency, time keeping, service etc.
Not one UK airline near the top with Lufthansa at the top (2016), Turkish airlines even beats BA, Swissair, Austrian Airlines, Air France, KLM, Finnair, Norwegian, and even Aeroflot before the first Brit one which is Virgin and they don't fly internal EU.
If no agreement then how could Air France or Lufthansa transport people from UK to all the far flung places like Alicante or, come to that, anywhere?
You do come out with some pure and unadulterated crap.
 
The main drivers to EASA shenanigans are Air France and Lufthansa who see an opportunity to drive efficient UK airlines out of European markets.

It suits no one, least of all the EUrines to see any reduction in aviation safety standards.

There will be a transitional deal in place for April 2019

The UK is a global player, the EUrines will do a deal that allows the UK to stay in EASA without the ECJ.
No they will not. They really, really won't. No-one with any understanding of aviation believes that will be the case. The key here is to read the small print of the agreements that EASA has with other regulators and then understand just how time consuming a task adding a new dispute resolution mechanism would be.

Should the government go back on everything it has said to the industry so far and leave EASA then things will keep going, but at the cost of moving jobs out of the UK or (in the case of American clients) paying the FAA through the nose to do the same thing. And that FAA mandate is not something the UK can influence in any way, as it is the US regulator telling US firms what to do. One wonders when other regulators will follow suit.

No, we stay in EASA or we lose an awful lot of jobs. And as there is a pre-existing deal for non-EU european members of EASA and we have left it far too late to negotiate anything else then that is all that is on offer.

Not that I should complain, the lack of understanding about how the modern world works that you typify is what will stop Brexit from occurring in any meaningful fashion.
 
Brexit has increased several fold the chances of a Corbyn Govt, Scottish independence and Irish re-unification.

It's called taking back control, apparently.
corbyn won't get in. Scotland won't split because then then they'd have to join the EU take on euro etc. If wire wants Ulster offer it to them... Then watch the real fun start in the Irish government.
Absolute out and out bollox. BA Is an efficient UK airline, is it? Ryanair is Irish. Monarch went bust.
Have a look at the top 10 European airlines for efficiency, time keeping, service etc.
Not one UK airline near the top with Lufthansa at the top (2016), Turkish airlines even beats BA, Swissair, Austrian Airlines, Air France, KLM, Finnair, Norwegian, and even Aeroflot before the first Brit one which is Virgin and they don't fly internal EU.
If no agreement then how could Air France or Lufthansa transport people from UK to all the far flung places like Alicante or, come to that, anywhere?
You do come out with some pure and unadulterated crap.
so it seems there will be no issue for uk carriers then. We'll just carry on using foreign carriers, who will presumably force a solution through or lose lots of money...
 
No they will not. They really, really won't. No-one with any understanding of aviation believes that will be the case. The key here is to read the small print of the agreements that EASA has with other regulators and then understand just how time consuming a task adding a new dispute resolution mechanism would be.

Should the government go back on everything it has said to the industry so far and leave EASA then things will keep going, but at the cost of moving jobs out of the UK or (in the case of American clients) paying the FAA through the nose to do the same thing. And that FAA mandate is not something the UK can influence in any way, as it is the US regulator telling US firms what to do. One wonders when other regulators will follow suit.

No, we stay in EASA or we lose an awful lot of jobs. And as there is a pre-existing deal for non-EU european members of EASA and we have left it far too late to negotiate anything else then that is all that is on offer.

Not that I should complain, the lack of understanding about how the modern world works that you typify is what will stop Brexit from occurring in any meaningful fashion.

The minute any Remainer says, ‘no, it’s impossible to change a treaty’, I laugh out loud.
Funny how the EU has no problem ammending and altering treaties when we were ‘in’ and they wanted our money.

EASAs terms of reference are not written by God in tablets of stone.
The treaty can be amended, it already has a fudge for the Swiss.
 
Absolute out and out bollox. BA Is an efficient UK airline, is it? Ryanair is Irish. Monarch went bust.
Have a look at the top 10 European airlines for efficiency, time keeping, service etc.
Not one UK airline near the top with Lufthansa at the top (2016), Turkish airlines even beats BA, Swissair, Austrian Airlines, Air France, KLM, Finnair, Norwegian, and even Aeroflot before the first Brit one which is Virgin and they don't fly internal EU.
If no agreement then how could Air France or Lufthansa transport people from UK to all the far flung places like Alicante or, come to that, anywhere?
You do come out with some pure and unadulterated crap.

So Air France and Lufthansa didn’t call for onerous post Brexit terms to be imposed on British carriers to freeze them out of the EU aviation market.
That pro EU crack you are smoking is frying your brain.
 
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