Brexit Phase Two - Trade

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Brotherton Lad

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Didn’t see anything in their manifestos about a backstop we couldn’t get out of or remaining in a currency union.

We have a deep and special partnership with close trading ties with Canada. Nobody is advocating Toronto deals with trade deals on our behalf or gets sent a proportion of VAT returns.

The UK is not in a currency union with the EU.
 
Always the plan. Centrist politics has had its day until it gets reinvented again.

I’m looking forward to the mass exodus of new labour MPs.

That’ll split the labour vote and get even more competition for the libDems.

However, in the real world whereby political parties aren’t polling their own echo chambers, the non party political aligned electorate will vote for who they want to. As we saw in the last GE, the two parties who advocated ignoring the referendum result (SNP & LibDems) lost seats whilst the two main parties who advocated honouring the referendum result remained the same. (Tory’s lost some seats and labour gained some seats)

It’s interesting watching some labour activists advocating staying in the EU and nationalisation (which they can’t do), whilst simultaneously advocating staying in the EU to save the NHS, whilst no other country in Europe has a healthcare system delivered in the same way as the NHS? Harmonisation anybody?
No matter how many times you are told, you still come up with the same crap about healthcare and the uniqueness of the NHS. Stop spouting things from inside your head because you are making yourself look like a fool.

The NHS is neither unique nor very good.
 

Auld-Yin

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Nobody else voted for that.

The manifestos of the 2 main Parties were for a deep and special partnership, and a close trading relationship.
Really? Why on earth didn't they say that at the referendum and if both major parties agreed that why did they allow a clear binary choice?
 
What's Corbyn if not an outlier? He's squeezing out the centre left to replace with the hard lft
He is a populist as all outliers tend to be, its only the fact the left media pretend that populism is something of the right, he is not labelled as much as Farage. I get you dislike these populist people, but they are an inevitable symptom of the present political order. Brexit from where I was sitting, is all about changing that political order.

I for one did not believe it would be enough.. My fear is people stalled, tend to double down. So that's why I think you and remainers should get behind TMs deal.. Once and for all we need a compromise.
 
Leo, there are HEOs at UK Space Agency in Swindon on £27k pa.

The UK gov are also asking for PhDs to work as statisticians ... Starting on 25k a year in Edinburgh (and 28k for the next level up). One of my old lab mates left academia after his PhD and was on 50k after 9 months, crunching numbers for one of the gambling companies. A year or so after that he was contracting for 300 a day for banks and the like. Even the NHS pay 30-32k starting salary when recruiting PhDs for that role. No idea how they expect to recruit people when they are paying far below industry rates and even around 8-12k less than academia (and at least in academia you are free to set you own schedule, including where you work, and set your own projects etc).
 
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The EUrofetishist in Chiefette seems to be having a proper meltdown tonight.
 
Bondage please, please, please. Failing that rubber hardwear
You are one very sick individual. I implore you to seek help with all haste. Seek help before your disorder takes over and destroys your life.
 
Really? Why on earth didn't they say that at the referendum and if both major parties agreed that why did they allow a clear binary choice?
Both TM and JC have policy positions that are in the spirit of their manifesto.

The ERG are pushing a position that contradicts what they were elected on.
 
Funny. You must be hanging around in different circles.

upset their contributions to eU funding is going up?

Don’t worry. We have the same retards. They repost twitters and read the Guardian.
Would you like some laboons?
 
Nope, I'd have to go some to beat your bollocks. The US are much more protectionist.

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The country that imposes the most restrictions on trade might surprise you

I'm sure that if you practice your usual contortionist act you'll be able to prove that the EU was more protectionist at 12:15 on Jan 1st 2015 and will do your usual Special Olympics lap of honour.
You can sort of understand the BRIC countries - they are trying to grow their home grown industries after all, shielding them a bit from the massive global corps. China used to have way more restrictions but they went down quite a bit after the local industries themselves turned into global companies. But it's a fine line balancing that and inward investment from foreign firms.
 
Nope, I'd have to go some to beat your bollocks. The US are much more protectionist.

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The country that imposes the most restrictions on trade might surprise you

I'm sure that if you practice your usual contortionist act you'll be able to prove that the EU was more protectionist at 12:15 on Jan 1st 2015 and will do your usual Special Olympics lap of honour.
Look at the graph. You will spot the issue unless you are thick as shit. EU is not a state and tags zero for national barriers to trade. We know they are huge in the MS.

Try again.
 

Robme

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I suppose you don't read many german forums or newspapers. Many of my fellow countrymen today indulge in damnation or even hatred of the British. They are irrational and act like women scorned to quote Congreve. Many Mini-Treitschkes crawling out from under their rock. Today, if you defend the Brexit in Germany you are a Nazi, one of Putins trolls or some lowlife barsteward. The true believers of the church of the holy EU are merciless.

Not that many of us Anglophiles left in Germany.
Listen castenkopf less of this anti-British sentiment or we will send a squadron of ‘Achtung Spitfires’ over to sort you lot out.
 

Auld-Yin

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Both TM and JC have policy positions that are in the spirit of their manifesto.

The ERG are pushing a position that contradicts what they were elected on.
The GE was not the referendum, stop conflating them.
 

Robme

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what comes around goes around. A tad Ironic but I know where you are coming from. But then it was always an honest agreement between France and Germany wan't it:rolleyes: to the detriment of the rest of the silly buggers who joined in.
Fixed FOC
 
Which one of you heroes is this skip licker? State of him...
 
The GE was not the referendum, stop conflating them.
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Yet, at the time when I pointed that out, you yourself said that it was all about the Brexit policy and was only about us leaving. I did say, at the time again, I wouldn't vote for Labour (which I never have done) because there was more to a GE than Brexit, like the economy, defence, transport and many other things.
You, on the other hand, responded that that GE was overwhelmingly about Brexit and the most important thing and was a mandate for May to carry it out.
Still, it was nearly 2 years ago.
 

Robme

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You are one very sick individual. I implore you to seek help with all haste. Seek help before your disorder takes over and destroys your life.
But but but i’m In luv. And I haven’t even touched on if she would spank me yet.
 
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